Wortman, Barbara

1857 - 1935  (78 years)

• Name	Wortman, Barbara  [1, 2]
  Birth	13 Mar 1857	Pennsylvania, USA   [1]
  Gender	Female
  Residence	Between 1860 and 1910	Benzinger, Elk, Pennsylvania, USA   [1]
  Residence	1920	St Marys, Elk, Pennsylvania, USA   [1]
  Death	29 Nov 1935	St Marys, Elk, Pennsylvania, USA   [1]
  Burial	Aft 29 Nov 1935	St Marys, Elk, Pennsylvania, USA   [1]
  Person ID	I80054	WETZEL-SPRING

  
  

  Father	Wortman, Christian,   b. 1809, Bremen, Bremen, Germany d. 1880, St Marys, Elk, Pennsylvania, USA (Age 71 years)
  Relationship	natural
  Mother	Treman, Anna Marie Tierman,   b. 1825, Hannover, Niedersachsen, Germany d. 1881, St Marys, Elk, Pennsylvania, USA (Age 56 years)
  Relationship	natural
  Marriage	27 Aug 1850	Pennsylvania, USA   [2]
  	20200618HAv- Larry Herbstritt?Herbstritt-Snyder-Essex-Figg-Davey-Chase-Dunn-Ellison Family Descendants Admin · June 15 · 2020 Larry Herbstritt Admin · June 15 at 11:06 AM I recently received genealogy documents compiled by one of my DNA relatives, Dave VanKerkhove. Dave is a descendant of Barbara Wortman. Barbara Wortman was the daughter of Christian Wortman and Anna Marie Tieman. Dave's information, combined with a recent DNA match with another "Dave", Dave Bossart, a descendant of Francis Xavier "Frank" Wortman, sheds new light on the mystery of the parentage of Mary Ann Wortman. Francis Xavier was the first son born to Christian Wortman & Anna Marie Tieman. According to Mr VanKerkhove's records, Francis Xavier Wortman was born February 1851. His records also show that Christian Wortman and Anna Marie were married 27 August 1850. Some simple math would imply that Francis Xavier would have been conceived some time in May of 1850. In June of 1850 Anna Marie was shown on the 1850 Federal Census Record to be married and living in the household of John Gerard Wehage and they had a 4 month old daughter named Mary Ann. In July of 1850, John Gerard Wehage died at the age of 26, from what was described as "COLIC". The next month, on August 27, 1850, Anna Marie married a much older man, Christian Wortman, who had been a "Laborer" on a nearby farm. It's difficult to interpret this information any other way than, the obvious. Anna Marie Tieman Wehage, must have had an affair with Christian Wortman while still married to John Wehage. Christian can be found on that same 1850 Federal Census as being in the household of Barnabas Anthony. To back this up even more, the aforementioned, Dave Bossart, described as a "half 3rd cousin" shares with me 171 cM of DNA on several different segments. We share 2.5% DNA which strongly suggests a full 3rd cousin relationship, not a half 3rd cousin relationship. It is now my conclusion that Mary Ann Wortman was indeed the daughter of Christian Wortman and Anna Marie Tieman and not the daughter of John Gerard Wehage. Image may contain: text Image may contain: text No photo description available. No photo description available. 6You, Paul Lynn Gardner and 4 others 7 Comments Seen by 78 Like Comments Larry Herbstritt Does anyone else think that a 26 year old man dying from colic sounds suspicious? Like · Reply · 2d John C Wetzel Larry Herbstritt hadn’t even thought of that, but now that you mention it... yes. Edit or delete this Like · Reply · 3h Larry Herbstritt John C Wetzel this is the Federal Census Death Schedule for Benzinger Township. It shows John Wehage No photo description available. 1 Like · Reply · 2h John C Wetzel Larry Herbstritt looks like a town in Germany! Like · Reply · 2h Larry Herbstritt John C Wetzel St Marys was first settled by German Catholics as a Catholic refuge from the persecution they experienced in Baltimore and Philadelphia Like · Reply · 1h Larry Herbstritt Another, less intriguing, possibility is that Francis Xavier Wortman was fathered by John G Wehage. This would account for my 171 cM sharing match with the aforementioned, Dave Bossart, who is a descendant of Francis Xavier “Wortman”. Like · Reply · 46m Larry Herbstritt ATTENTION: A scenario occurred to me that would remove much of the intrigue concerning the actions of 1850 between Anna Marie, John Garard Wehage and Christian Wortman. Perhaps Francis Xavier Wortman was given that last name in error, and he and Mary Ann were indeed the daughter and son of John Gerard Wehage and John fathered the child (Francis Xavier) in May and Anna Marie being pregnant and widowed in July when John Wehage died, Christian Wortman came to the rescue and married her right away in August. This seems more reasonable and puts everyone in a much better light. This would also explain my high 171 cM DNA match with Dave Bossart, descendant of Francis Xavier Wortman Like · Reply · 54m __________ Media: 20200617HAv- Larry Herbstritt?Herbstritt-Snyder-Essex-Figg-Davey-Chase-Dunn-Ellison Family Descendants Admin · June 15 · 2020 Dave VanKerkhove research for Anna Marie Tieman (Treman) and her first husband, John Gerard Wehage. The spelling "Vehagen" was a misunderstanding by the census taker of the pronunciation of his last name. There is clearly some confusion about Armill Wehage and Xavier Wehage being born in the same year, unless they were twins. 1John C Wetzel Like Comment 20200618HAv- Larry Herbstritt?Herbstritt-Snyder-Essex-Figg-Davey-Chase-Dunn-Ellison Family Descendants Admin · June 15 · 2020 Larry Herbstritt Admin · June 15 at 11:06 AM I recently received genealogy documents compiled by one of my DNA relatives, Dave VanKerkhove. Dave is a descendant of Barbara Wortman. Barbara Wortman was the daughter of Christian Wortman and Anna Marie Tieman. Dave's information, combined with a recent DNA match with another "Dave", Dave Bossart, a descendant of Francis Xavier "Frank" Wortman, sheds new light on the mystery of the parentage of Mary Ann Wortman. Francis Xavier was the first son born to Christian Wortman & Anna Marie Tieman. According to Mr VanKerkhove's records, Francis Xavier Wortman was born February 1851. His records also show that Christian Wortman and Anna Marie were married 27 August 1850. Some simple math would imply that Francis Xavier would have been conceived some time in May of 1850. In June of 1850 Anna Marie was shown on the 1850 Federal Census Record to be married and living in the household of John Gerard Wehage and they had a 4 month old daughter named Mary Ann. In July of 1850, John Gerard Wehage died at the age of 26, from what was described as "COLIC". The next month, on August 27, 1850, Anna Marie married a much older man, Christian Wortman, who had been a "Laborer" on a nearby farm. It's difficult to interpret this information any other way than, the obvious. Anna Marie Tieman Wehage, must have had an affair with Christian Wortman while still married to John Wehage. Christian can be found on that same 1850 Federal Census as being in the household of Barnabas Anthony. To back this up even more, the aforementioned, Dave Bossart, described as a "half 3rd cousin" shares with me 171 cM of DNA on several different segments. We share 2.5% DNA which strongly suggests a full 3rd cousin relationship, not a half 3rd cousin relationship. It is now my conclusion that Mary Ann Wortman was indeed the daughter of Christian Wortman and Anna Marie Tieman and not the daughter of John Gerard Wehage. Image may contain: text Image may contain: text No photo description available. No photo description available. 6You, Paul Lynn Gardner and 4 others 7 Comments Seen by 78 Like Comments Larry Herbstritt Does anyone else think that a 26 year old man dying from colic sounds suspicious? Like · Reply · 2d John C Wetzel Larry Herbstritt hadn’t even thought of that, but now that you mention it... yes. Edit or delete this Like · Reply · 3h Larry Herbstritt John C Wetzel this is the Federal Census Death Schedule for Benzinger Township. It shows John Wehage No photo description available. 1 Like · Reply · 2h John C Wetzel Larry Herbstritt looks like a town in Germany! Like · Reply · 2h Larry Herbstritt John C Wetzel St Marys was first settled by German Catholics as a Catholic refuge from the persecution they experienced in Baltimore and Philadelphia Like · Reply · 1h Larry Herbstritt Another, less intriguing, possibility is that Francis Xavier Wortman was fathered by John G Wehage. This would account for my 171 cM sharing match with the aforementioned, Dave Bossart, who is a descendant of Francis Xavier “Wortman”. Like · Reply · 46m Larry Herbstritt ATTENTION: A scenario occurred to me that would remove much of the intrigue concerning the actions of 1850 between Anna Marie, John Garard Wehage and Christian Wortman. Perhaps Francis Xavier Wortman was given that last name in error, and he and Mary Ann were indeed the daughter and son of John Gerard Wehage and John fathered the child (Francis Xavier) in May and Anna Marie being pregnant and widowed in July when John Wehage died, Christian Wortman came to the rescue and married her right away in August. This seems more reasonable and puts everyone in a much better light. This would also explain my high 171 cM DNA match with Dave Bossart, descendant of Francis Xavier Wortman Like · Reply · 54m _____________ 20200617HAv- Larry Herbstritt?Herbstritt-Snyder-Essex-Figg-Davey-Chase-Dunn-Ellison Family Descendants Admin · June 15 · 2020 Genealogy research of Dave VanKerkhove for Christian Wortman and Anna Marie Tieman 1John C Wetzel 1 Comment Seen by 1 Like Comments John C Wetzel Do you know more about the location, 'Toupia' in Germany? I can't find it. Like · Reply · 27m 20200618HAv- Larry Herbstritt?Herbstritt-Snyder-Essex-Figg-Davey-Chase-Dunn-Ellison Family Descendants Admin · June 15 · 2020 Larry Herbstritt Admin · June 15 at 11:06 AM I recently received genealogy documents compiled by one of my DNA relatives, Dave VanKerkhove. Dave is a descendant of Barbara Wortman. Barbara Wortman was the daughter of Christian Wortman and Anna Marie Tieman. Dave's information, combined with a recent DNA match with another "Dave", Dave Bossart, a descendant of Francis Xavier "Frank" Wortman, sheds new light on the mystery of the parentage of Mary Ann Wortman. Francis Xavier was the first son born to Christian Wortman & Anna Marie Tieman. According to Mr VanKerkhove's records, Francis Xavier Wortman was born February 1851. His records also show that Christian Wortman and Anna Marie were married 27 August 1850. Some simple math would imply that Francis Xavier would have been conceived some time in May of 1850. In June of 1850 Anna Marie was shown on the 1850 Federal Census Record to be married and living in the household of John Gerard Wehage and they had a 4 month old daughter named Mary Ann. In July of 1850, John Gerard Wehage died at the age of 26, from what was described as "COLIC". The next month, on August 27, 1850, Anna Marie married a much older man, Christian Wortman, who had been a "Laborer" on a nearby farm. It's difficult to interpret this information any other way than, the obvious. Anna Marie Tieman Wehage, must have had an affair with Christian Wortman while still married to John Wehage. Christian can be found on that same 1850 Federal Census as being in the household of Barnabas Anthony. To back this up even more, the aforementioned, Dave Bossart, described as a "half 3rd cousin" shares with me 171 cM of DNA on several different segments. We share 2.5% DNA which strongly suggests a full 3rd cousin relationship, not a half 3rd cousin relationship. It is now my conclusion that Mary Ann Wortman was indeed the daughter of Christian Wortman and Anna Marie Tieman and not the daughter of John Gerard Wehage. Image may contain: text Image may contain: text No photo description available. No photo description available. 6You, Paul Lynn Gardner and 4 others 7 Comments Seen by 78 Like Comments Larry Herbstritt Does anyone else think that a 26 year old man dying from colic sounds suspicious? Like · Reply · 2d John C Wetzel Larry Herbstritt hadn’t even thought of that, but now that you mention it... yes. Edit or delete this Like · Reply · 3h Larry Herbstritt John C Wetzel this is the Federal Census Death Schedule for Benzinger Township. It shows John Wehage No photo description available. 1 Like · Reply · 2h John C Wetzel Larry Herbstritt looks like a town in Germany! Like · Reply · 2h Larry Herbstritt John C Wetzel St Marys was first settled by German Catholics as a Catholic refuge from the persecution they experienced in Baltimore and Philadelphia Like · Reply · 1h Larry Herbstritt Another, less intriguing, possibility is that Francis Xavier Wortman was fathered by John G Wehage. This would account for my 171 cM sharing match with the aforementioned, Dave Bossart, who is a descendant of Francis Xavier “Wortman”. Like · Reply · 46m Larry Herbstritt ATTENTION: A scenario occurred to me that would remove much of the intrigue concerning the actions of 1850 between Anna Marie, John Garard Wehage and Christian Wortman. Perhaps Francis Xavier Wortman was given that last name in error, and he and Mary Ann were indeed the daughter and son of John Gerard Wehage and John fathered the child (Francis Xavier) in May and Anna Marie being pregnant and widowed in July when John Wehage died, Christian Wortman came to the rescue and married her right away in August. This seems more reasonable and puts everyone in a much better light. This would also explain my high 171 cM DNA match with Dave Bossart, descendant of Francis Xavier Wortman Like · Reply · 54m ____________ 20200617HAv- Larry Herbstritt?Herbstritt-Snyder-Essex-Figg-Davey-Chase-Dunn-Ellison Family Descendants Admin · June 15 · 2020 DBossart44 is Dave Bossart, described here, erroneously, as my Half 3rd cousin. This is because I currently have John Gerard Wehage as my 2nd great grandfather. Once this is changed back to Christian Wortman this will change to "3rd Cousin". 1John C Wetzel Seen by 1 Like Comment 20200618HAv- Larry Herbstritt?Herbstritt-Snyder-Essex-Figg-Davey-Chase-Dunn-Ellison Family Descendants Admin · June 15 · 2020 Larry Herbstritt Admin · June 15 at 11:06 AM I recently received genealogy documents compiled by one of my DNA relatives, Dave VanKerkhove. Dave is a descendant of Barbara Wortman. Barbara Wortman was the daughter of Christian Wortman and Anna Marie Tieman. Dave's information, combined with a recent DNA match with another "Dave", Dave Bossart, a descendant of Francis Xavier "Frank" Wortman, sheds new light on the mystery of the parentage of Mary Ann Wortman. Francis Xavier was the first son born to Christian Wortman & Anna Marie Tieman. According to Mr VanKerkhove's records, Francis Xavier Wortman was born February 1851. His records also show that Christian Wortman and Anna Marie were married 27 August 1850. Some simple math would imply that Francis Xavier would have been conceived some time in May of 1850. In June of 1850 Anna Marie was shown on the 1850 Federal Census Record to be married and living in the household of John Gerard Wehage and they had a 4 month old daughter named Mary Ann. In July of 1850, John Gerard Wehage died at the age of 26, from what was described as "COLIC". The next month, on August 27, 1850, Anna Marie married a much older man, Christian Wortman, who had been a "Laborer" on a nearby farm. It's difficult to interpret this information any other way than, the obvious. Anna Marie Tieman Wehage, must have had an affair with Christian Wortman while still married to John Wehage. Christian can be found on that same 1850 Federal Census as being in the household of Barnabas Anthony. To back this up even more, the aforementioned, Dave Bossart, described as a "half 3rd cousin" shares with me 171 cM of DNA on several different segments. We share 2.5% DNA which strongly suggests a full 3rd cousin relationship, not a half 3rd cousin relationship. It is now my conclusion that Mary Ann Wortman was indeed the daughter of Christian Wortman and Anna Marie Tieman and not the daughter of John Gerard Wehage. Image may contain: text Image may contain: text No photo description available. No photo description available. 6You, Paul Lynn Gardner and 4 others 7 Comments Seen by 78 Like Comments Larry Herbstritt Does anyone else think that a 26 year old man dying from colic sounds suspicious? Like · Reply · 2d John C Wetzel Larry Herbstritt hadn’t even thought of that, but now that you mention it... yes. Edit or delete this Like · Reply · 3h Larry Herbstritt John C Wetzel this is the Federal Census Death Schedule for Benzinger Township. It shows John Wehage No photo description available. 1 Like · Reply · 2h John C Wetzel Larry Herbstritt looks like a town in Germany! Like · Reply · 2h Larry Herbstritt John C Wetzel St Marys was first settled by German Catholics as a Catholic refuge from the persecution they experienced in Baltimore and Philadelphia Like · Reply · 1h Larry Herbstritt Another, less intriguing, possibility is that Francis Xavier Wortman was fathered by John G Wehage. This would account for my 171 cM sharing match with the aforementioned, Dave Bossart, who is a descendant of Francis Xavier “Wortman”. Like · Reply · 46m Larry Herbstritt ATTENTION: A scenario occurred to me that would remove much of the intrigue concerning the actions of 1850 between Anna Marie, John Garard Wehage and Christian Wortman. Perhaps Francis Xavier Wortman was given that last name in error, and he and Mary Ann were indeed the daughter and son of John Gerard Wehage and John fathered the child (Francis Xavier) in May and Anna Marie being pregnant and widowed in July when John Wehage died, Christian Wortman came to the rescue and married her right away in August. This seems more reasonable and puts everyone in a much better light. This would also explain my high 171 cM DNA match with Dave Bossart, descendant of Francis Xavier Wortman Like · Reply · 54m ____________ 20200617HAv- Larry Herbstritt?Herbstritt-Snyder-Essex-Figg-Davey-Chase-Dunn-Ellison Family Descendants Admin · June 15 · 2020 The 2.5% Shared DNA between Dave Bossart and me is on the high end and even exceeds the percentages shown here for full 3rd cousins. Like Comment ___________ 20200617HAv- Larry Herbstritt 3 hrs 17 June 2020 John C Wetzel this is the Federal Census Death Schedule for Benzinger Township. It shows John Wehage 1John C Wetzel Like The next month, on August 27, 1850, Anna Marie married a much older man, Christian Wortman, who had been a "Laborer" on a nearby farm.
  Family ID	F50617	Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  
  

  Family	Eckert, John G,   b. 12 Mar 1851, Benzinger, Elk, Pennsylvania, USA d. 15 Sep 1908, Benzinger, Elk, Pennsylvania, USA (Age 57 years)
  Marriage	1874  [1]
  Children	1. Eckert, Charles J,   b. Jul 1895, Pennsylvania, USA  [Father: natural]  [Mother: natural]   2. Eckert, Louis J,   b. 1899, Pennsylvania, USA  [Father: natural]  [Mother: natural]   3. Eckert, Gertrude P,   b. Apr 1893, Pennsylvania, USA  [Father: natural]  [Mother: natural]   4. Eckert, Jacob J,   b. Dec 1885, Pennsylvania, USA  [Father: natural]  [Mother: natural]   5. Eckert, Andrew John,   b. May 1881, Pennsylvania, USA d. 21 Nov 1910, Benzinger, Elk, Pennsylvania, USA (Age 29 years)  [Father: natural]  [Mother: natural]   6. Eckert, Mary B,   b. 13 Apr 1879, St Marys, Elk, Pennsylvania, USA d. 28 Aug 1953, St Marys, Elk, Pennsylvania, USA (Age 74 years)  [Father: natural]  [Mother: natural]   7. Eckert, William M,   b. Feb 1876, Pennsylvania, USA  [Father: natural]  [Mother: natural]   8. Eckert, Anna L,   b. 13 Feb 1875, St Marys, Elk, Pennsylvania, USA d. 23 May 1940, St Marys, Elk, Pennsylvania, USA (Age 65 years)  [Father: natural]  [Mother: natural]
  Family ID	F50619	Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  
  

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  Birth - 13 Mar 1857 - Pennsylvania, USA Residence - Between 1860 and 1910 - Benzinger, Elk, Pennsylvania, USA Residence - 1920 - St Marys, Elk, Pennsylvania, USA Death - 29 Nov 1935 - St Marys, Elk, Pennsylvania, USA Burial - Aft 29 Nov 1935 - St Marys, Elk, Pennsylvania, USA  = Link to Google Earth

  
  

• Photos » Slide Show		vanKerkhove, Dave anc Wortman_Tieman FB200615LHeSnE 20200617HAv- Larry Herbstritt?Herbstritt-Snyder-Essex-Figg-Davey-Chase-Dunn-Ellison Family Descendants Admin · June 15 · 2020 Dave VanKerkhove research for Anna Marie Tieman (Treman) and her first husband, John Gerard Wehage. The spelling "Vehagen" was a misunderstanding by the census taker of the pronunciation of his last name. There is…
  		vanKerkhove, Dave anc Wortman Kentes,K Anc FB200615LHeSnE 20200617HAv- Larry Herbstritt?Herbstritt-Snyder-Essex-Figg-Davey-Chase-Dunn-Ellison Family Descendants Admin · June 15 · 2020 DBossart44 is Dave Bossart, described here, erroneously, as my Half 3rd cousin. This is because I currently have John Gerard Wehage as my 2nd great grandfather. Once this is changed back to Christian Wortman this will…
  		vanKerkhove, Dave anc Wortman_Treman FB200615LHeSnE 20200617HAv- Larry Herbstritt?Herbstritt-Snyder-Essex-Figg-Davey-Chase-Dunn-Ellison Family Descendants Admin · June 15 · 2020 Genealogy research of Dave VanKerkhove for Christian Wortman and Anna Marie Tieman 1John C Wetzel 1 Comment Seen by 1 Like Comments John C Wetzel Do you know more about the location, 'Toupia' in Germany? I can't find…

  
  

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  [S2325] Public Member Trees 2020, Meissner Family Tree - rholbert2444 / Barbara Wortman (83) facts. Record for Barbara Wortman (83) facts 20200617HAv- Meissner Family Tree - rholbert2444 / Barbara Wortman 1857-1935 BIRTH 13 MAR 1857 • Pennsylvania DEATH 29 NOV 1935 • St Marys, Elk, PA Record for Barbara Wortman (83) facts 20200617HAv- Meissner Family Tree - rholbert2444 / Barbara Wortman 1857-1935 BIRTH 13 MAR 1857 • Pennsylvania DEATH 29 NOV 1935 • St Marys, Elk, PA [S1703] FaceBook- ?Herbstritt-Snyder-Essex-Figg-Davey-Chase-Dunn-Ellison Family Descendants. 20200618HAv- Larry Herbstritt?Herbstritt-Snyder-Essex-Figg-Davey-Chase-Dunn-Ellison Family Descendants Admin · June 15 · 2020 Larry Herbstritt Admin · June 15 at 11:06 AM I recently received genealogy documents compiled by one of my DNA relatives, Dave VanKerkhove. Dave is a descendant of Barbara Wortman. Barbara Wortman was the daughter of Christian Wortman and Anna Marie Tieman. Dave's information, combined with a recent DNA match with another "Dave", Dave Bossart, a descendant of Francis Xavier "Frank" Wortman, sheds new light on the mystery of the parentage of Mary Ann Wortman. Francis Xavier was the first son born to Christian Wortman & Anna Marie Tieman. According to Mr VanKerkhove's records, Francis Xavier Wortman was born February 1851. His records also show that Christian Wortman and Anna Marie were married 27 August 1850. Some simple math would imply that Francis Xavier would have been conceived some time in May of 1850. In June of 1850 Anna Marie was shown on the 1850 Federal Census Record to be married and living in the household of John Gerard Wehage and they had a 4 month old daughter named Mary Ann. In July of 1850, John Gerard Wehage died at the age of 26, from what was described as "COLIC". The next month, on August 27, 1850, Anna Marie married a much older man, Christian Wortman, who had been a "Laborer" on a nearby farm. It's difficult to interpret this information any other way than, the obvious. Anna Marie Tieman Wehage, must have had an affair with Christian Wortman while still married to John Wehage. Christian can be found on that same 1850 Federal Census as being in the household of Barnabas Anthony. To back this up even more, the aforementioned, Dave Bossart, described as a "half 3rd cousin" shares with me 171 cM of DNA on several different segments. We share 2.5% DNA which strongly suggests a full 3rd cousin relationship, not a half 3rd cousin relationship. It is now my conclusion that Mary Ann Wortman was indeed the daughter of Christian Wortman and Anna Marie Tieman and not the daughter of John Gerard Wehage. Image may contain: text Image may contain: text No photo description available. No photo description available. 6You, Paul Lynn Gardner and 4 others 7 Comments Seen by 78 Like Comments Larry Herbstritt Does anyone else think that a 26 year old man dying from colic sounds suspicious? Like · Reply · 2d John C Wetzel Larry Herbstritt hadn’t even thought of that, but now that you mention it... yes. Edit or delete this Like · Reply · 3h Larry Herbstritt John C Wetzel this is the Federal Census Death Schedule for Benzinger Township. It shows John Wehage No photo description available. 1 Like · Reply · 2h John C Wetzel Larry Herbstritt looks like a town in Germany! Like · Reply · 2h Larry Herbstritt John C Wetzel St Marys was first settled by German Catholics as a Catholic refuge from the persecution they experienced in Baltimore and Philadelphia Like · Reply · 1h Larry Herbstritt Another, less intriguing, possibility is that Francis Xavier Wortman was fathered by John G Wehage. This would account for my 171 cM sharing match with the aforementioned, Dave Bossart, who is a descendant of Francis Xavier “Wortman”. Like · Reply · 46m Larry Herbstritt ATTENTION: A scenario occurred to me that would remove much of the intrigue concerning the actions of 1850 between Anna Marie, John Garard Wehage and Christian Wortman. Perhaps Francis Xavier Wortman was given that last name in error, and he and Mary Ann were indeed the daughter and son of John Gerard Wehage and John fathered the child (Francis Xavier) in May and Anna Marie being pregnant and widowed in July when John Wehage died, Christian Wortman came to the rescue and married her right away in August. This seems more reasonable and puts everyone in a much better light. This would also explain my high 171 cM DNA match with Dave Bossart, descendant of Francis Xavier Wortman Like · Reply · 54m __________ Media: 20200617HAv- Larry Herbstritt?Herbstritt-Snyder-Essex-Figg-Davey-Chase-Dunn-Ellison Family Descendants Admin · June 15 · 2020 Dave VanKerkhove research for Anna Marie Tieman (Treman) and her first husband, John Gerard Wehage. The spelling "Vehagen" was a misunderstanding by the census taker of the pronunciation of his last name. There is clearly some confusion about Armill Wehage and Xavier Wehage being born in the same year, unless they were twins. 1John C Wetzel Like Comment 20200618HAv- Larry Herbstritt?Herbstritt-Snyder-Essex-Figg-Davey-Chase-Dunn-Ellison Family Descendants Admin · June 15 · 2020 Larry Herbstritt Admin · June 15 at 11:06 AM I recently received genealogy documents compiled by one of my DNA relatives, Dave VanKerkhove. Dave is a descendant of Barbara Wortman. Barbara Wortman was the daughter of Christian Wortman and Anna Marie Tieman. Dave's information, combined with a recent DNA match with another "Dave", Dave Bossart, a descendant of Francis Xavier "Frank" Wortman, sheds new light on the mystery of the parentage of Mary Ann Wortman. Francis Xavier was the first son born to Christian Wortman & Anna Marie Tieman. According to Mr VanKerkhove's records, Francis Xavier Wortman was born February 1851. His records also show that Christian Wortman and Anna Marie were married 27 August 1850. Some simple math would imply that Francis Xavier would have been conceived some time in May of 1850. In June of 1850 Anna Marie was shown on the 1850 Federal Census Record to be married and living in the household of John Gerard Wehage and they had a 4 month old daughter named Mary Ann. In July of 1850, John Gerard Wehage died at the age of 26, from what was described as "COLIC". The next month, on August 27, 1850, Anna Marie married a much older man, Christian Wortman, who had been a "Laborer" on a nearby farm. It's difficult to interpret this information any other way than, the obvious. Anna Marie Tieman Wehage, must have had an affair with Christian Wortman while still married to John Wehage. Christian can be found on that same 1850 Federal Census as being in the household of Barnabas Anthony. To back this up even more, the aforementioned, Dave Bossart, described as a "half 3rd cousin" shares with me 171 cM of DNA on several different segments. We share 2.5% DNA which strongly suggests a full 3rd cousin relationship, not a half 3rd cousin relationship. It is now my conclusion that Mary Ann Wortman was indeed the daughter of Christian Wortman and Anna Marie Tieman and not the daughter of John Gerard Wehage. Image may contain: text Image may contain: text No photo description available. No photo description available. 6You, Paul Lynn Gardner and 4 others 7 Comments Seen by 78 Like Comments Larry Herbstritt Does anyone else think that a 26 year old man dying from colic sounds suspicious? Like · Reply · 2d John C Wetzel Larry Herbstritt hadn’t even thought of that, but now that you mention it... yes. Edit or delete this Like · Reply · 3h Larry Herbstritt John C Wetzel this is the Federal Census Death Schedule for Benzinger Township. It shows John Wehage No photo description available. 1 Like · Reply · 2h John C Wetzel Larry Herbstritt looks like a town in Germany! Like · Reply · 2h Larry Herbstritt John C Wetzel St Marys was first settled by German Catholics as a Catholic refuge from the persecution they experienced in Baltimore and Philadelphia Like · Reply · 1h Larry Herbstritt Another, less intriguing, possibility is that Francis Xavier Wortman was fathered by John G Wehage. This would account for my 171 cM sharing match with the aforementioned, Dave Bossart, who is a descendant of Francis Xavier “Wortman”. Like · Reply · 46m Larry Herbstritt ATTENTION: A scenario occurred to me that would remove much of the intrigue concerning the actions of 1850 between Anna Marie, John Garard Wehage and Christian Wortman. Perhaps Francis Xavier Wortman was given that last name in error, and he and Mary Ann were indeed the daughter and son of John Gerard Wehage and John fathered the child (Francis Xavier) in May and Anna Marie being pregnant and widowed in July when John Wehage died, Christian Wortman came to the rescue and married her right away in August. This seems more reasonable and puts everyone in a much better light. This would also explain my high 171 cM DNA match with Dave Bossart, descendant of Francis Xavier Wortman Like · Reply · 54m _____________ 20200617HAv- Larry Herbstritt?Herbstritt-Snyder-Essex-Figg-Davey-Chase-Dunn-Ellison Family Descendants Admin · June 15 · 2020 Genealogy research of Dave VanKerkhove for Christian Wortman and Anna Marie Tieman 1John C Wetzel 1 Comment Seen by 1 Like Comments John C Wetzel Do you know more about the location, 'Toupia' in Germany? I can't find it. Like · Reply · 27m 20200618HAv- Larry Herbstritt?Herbstritt-Snyder-Essex-Figg-Davey-Chase-Dunn-Ellison Family Descendants Admin · June 15 · 2020 Larry Herbstritt Admin · June 15 at 11:06 AM I recently received genealogy documents compiled by one of my DNA relatives, Dave VanKerkhove. Dave is a descendant of Barbara Wortman. Barbara Wortman was the daughter of Christian Wortman and Anna Marie Tieman. Dave's information, combined with a recent DNA match with another "Dave", Dave Bossart, a descendant of Francis Xavier "Frank" Wortman, sheds new light on the mystery of the parentage of Mary Ann Wortman. Francis Xavier was the first son born to Christian Wortman & Anna Marie Tieman. According to Mr VanKerkhove's records, Francis Xavier Wortman was born February 1851. His records also show that Christian Wortman and Anna Marie were married 27 August 1850. Some simple math would imply that Francis Xavier would have been conceived some time in May of 1850. In June of 1850 Anna Marie was shown on the 1850 Federal Census Record to be married and living in the household of John Gerard Wehage and they had a 4 month old daughter named Mary Ann. In July of 1850, John Gerard Wehage died at the age of 26, from what was described as "COLIC". The next month, on August 27, 1850, Anna Marie married a much older man, Christian Wortman, who had been a "Laborer" on a nearby farm. It's difficult to interpret this information any other way than, the obvious. Anna Marie Tieman Wehage, must have had an affair with Christian Wortman while still married to John Wehage. Christian can be found on that same 1850 Federal Census as being in the household of Barnabas Anthony. To back this up even more, the aforementioned, Dave Bossart, described as a "half 3rd cousin" shares with me 171 cM of DNA on several different segments. We share 2.5% DNA which strongly suggests a full 3rd cousin relationship, not a half 3rd cousin relationship. It is now my conclusion that Mary Ann Wortman was indeed the daughter of Christian Wortman and Anna Marie Tieman and not the daughter of John Gerard Wehage. Image may contain: text Image may contain: text No photo description available. No photo description available. 6You, Paul Lynn Gardner and 4 others 7 Comments Seen by 78 Like Comments Larry Herbstritt Does anyone else think that a 26 year old man dying from colic sounds suspicious? Like · Reply · 2d John C Wetzel Larry Herbstritt hadn’t even thought of that, but now that you mention it... yes. Edit or delete this Like · Reply · 3h Larry Herbstritt John C Wetzel this is the Federal Census Death Schedule for Benzinger Township. It shows John Wehage No photo description available. 1 Like · Reply · 2h John C Wetzel Larry Herbstritt looks like a town in Germany! Like · Reply · 2h Larry Herbstritt John C Wetzel St Marys was first settled by German Catholics as a Catholic refuge from the persecution they experienced in Baltimore and Philadelphia Like · Reply · 1h Larry Herbstritt Another, less intriguing, possibility is that Francis Xavier Wortman was fathered by John G Wehage. This would account for my 171 cM sharing match with the aforementioned, Dave Bossart, who is a descendant of Francis Xavier “Wortman”. Like · Reply · 46m Larry Herbstritt ATTENTION: A scenario occurred to me that would remove much of the intrigue concerning the actions of 1850 between Anna Marie, John Garard Wehage and Christian Wortman. Perhaps Francis Xavier Wortman was given that last name in error, and he and Mary Ann were indeed the daughter and son of John Gerard Wehage and John fathered the child (Francis Xavier) in May and Anna Marie being pregnant and widowed in July when John Wehage died, Christian Wortman came to the rescue and married her right away in August. This seems more reasonable and puts everyone in a much better light. This would also explain my high 171 cM DNA match with Dave Bossart, descendant of Francis Xavier Wortman Like · Reply · 54m ____________ 20200617HAv- Larry Herbstritt?Herbstritt-Snyder-Essex-Figg-Davey-Chase-Dunn-Ellison Family Descendants Admin · June 15 · 2020 DBossart44 is Dave Bossart, described here, erroneously, as my Half 3rd cousin. This is because I currently have John Gerard Wehage as my 2nd great grandfather. Once this is changed back to Christian Wortman this will change to "3rd Cousin". 1John C Wetzel Seen by 1 Like Comment 20200618HAv- Larry Herbstritt?Herbstritt-Snyder-Essex-Figg-Davey-Chase-Dunn-Ellison Family Descendants Admin · June 15 · 2020 Larry Herbstritt Admin · June 15 at 11:06 AM I recently received genealogy documents compiled by one of my DNA relatives, Dave VanKerkhove. Dave is a descendant of Barbara Wortman. Barbara Wortman was the daughter of Christian Wortman and Anna Marie Tieman. Dave's information, combined with a recent DNA match with another "Dave", Dave Bossart, a descendant of Francis Xavier "Frank" Wortman, sheds new light on the mystery of the parentage of Mary Ann Wortman. Francis Xavier was the first son born to Christian Wortman & Anna Marie Tieman. According to Mr VanKerkhove's records, Francis Xavier Wortman was born February 1851. His records also show that Christian Wortman and Anna Marie were married 27 August 1850. Some simple math would imply that Francis Xavier would have been conceived some time in May of 1850. In June of 1850 Anna Marie was shown on the 1850 Federal Census Record to be married and living in the household of John Gerard Wehage and they had a 4 month old daughter named Mary Ann. In July of 1850, John Gerard Wehage died at the age of 26, from what was described as "COLIC". The next month, on August 27, 1850, Anna Marie married a much older man, Christian Wortman, who had been a "Laborer" on a nearby farm. It's difficult to interpret this information any other way than, the obvious. Anna Marie Tieman Wehage, must have had an affair with Christian Wortman while still married to John Wehage. Christian can be found on that same 1850 Federal Census as being in the household of Barnabas Anthony. To back this up even more, the aforementioned, Dave Bossart, described as a "half 3rd cousin" shares with me 171 cM of DNA on several different segments. We share 2.5% DNA which strongly suggests a full 3rd cousin relationship, not a half 3rd cousin relationship. It is now my conclusion that Mary Ann Wortman was indeed the daughter of Christian Wortman and Anna Marie Tieman and not the daughter of John Gerard Wehage. Image may contain: text Image may contain: text No photo description available. No photo description available. 6You, Paul Lynn Gardner and 4 others 7 Comments Seen by 78 Like Comments Larry Herbstritt Does anyone else think that a 26 year old man dying from colic sounds suspicious? Like · Reply · 2d John C Wetzel Larry Herbstritt hadn’t even thought of that, but now that you mention it... yes. Edit or delete this Like · Reply · 3h Larry Herbstritt John C Wetzel this is the Federal Census Death Schedule for Benzinger Township. It shows John Wehage No photo description available. 1 Like · Reply · 2h John C Wetzel Larry Herbstritt looks like a town in Germany! Like · Reply · 2h Larry Herbstritt John C Wetzel St Marys was first settled by German Catholics as a Catholic refuge from the persecution they experienced in Baltimore and Philadelphia Like · Reply · 1h Larry Herbstritt Another, less intriguing, possibility is that Francis Xavier Wortman was fathered by John G Wehage. This would account for my 171 cM sharing match with the aforementioned, Dave Bossart, who is a descendant of Francis Xavier “Wortman”. Like · Reply · 46m Larry Herbstritt ATTENTION: A scenario occurred to me that would remove much of the intrigue concerning the actions of 1850 between Anna Marie, John Garard Wehage and Christian Wortman. Perhaps Francis Xavier Wortman was given that last name in error, and he and Mary Ann were indeed the daughter and son of John Gerard Wehage and John fathered the child (Francis Xavier) in May and Anna Marie being pregnant and widowed in July when John Wehage died, Christian Wortman came to the rescue and married her right away in August. This seems more reasonable and puts everyone in a much better light. This would also explain my high 171 cM DNA match with Dave Bossart, descendant of Francis Xavier Wortman Like · Reply · 54m ____________ 20200617HAv- Larry Herbstritt?Herbstritt-Snyder-Essex-Figg-Davey-Chase-Dunn-Ellison Family Descendants Admin · June 15 · 2020 The 2.5% Shared DNA between Dave Bossart and me is on the high end and even exceeds the percentages shown here for full 3rd cousins. Like Comment ___________ 20200617HAv- Larry Herbstritt 3 hrs 17 June 2020 John C Wetzel this is the Federal Census Death Schedule for Benzinger Township. It shows John Wehage 1John C Wetzel Like vanKerkhove, Dave anc Wortman Kentes,K Anc FB200615LHeSnE 20200617HAv- Larry Herbstritt?Herbstritt-Snyder-Essex-Figg-Davey-Chase-Dunn-Ellison Family Descendants Admin · June 15 · 2020 DBossart44 is Dave Bossart, described here, erroneously, as my Half 3rd cousin. This is because I currently have John Gerard Wehage as my 2nd great grandfather. Once this is changed back to Christian Wortman this will… vanKerkhove, Dave anc Wortman_Treman FB200615LHeSnE 20200617HAv- Larry Herbstritt?Herbstritt-Snyder-Essex-Figg-Davey-Chase-Dunn-Ellison Family Descendants Admin · June 15 · 2020 Genealogy research of Dave VanKerkhove for Christian Wortman and Anna Marie Tieman 1John C Wetzel 1 Comment Seen by 1 Like Comments John C Wetzel Do you know more about the location, 'Toupia' in Germany? I can't find… vanKerkhove, Dave anc Wortman_Tieman FB200615LHeSnE 20200617HAv- Larry Herbstritt?Herbstritt-Snyder-Essex-Figg-Davey-Chase-Dunn-Ellison Family Descendants Admin · June 15 · 2020 Dave VanKerkhove research for Anna Marie Tieman (Treman) and her first husband, John Gerard Wehage. The spelling "Vehagen" was a misunderstanding by the census taker of the pronunciation of his last name. There is… DNAnc relationship chart FB200615LHeSnE 20200617HAv- Larry Herbstritt?Herbstritt-Snyder-Essex-Figg-Davey-Chase-Dunn-Ellison Family Descendants Admin · June 15 · 2020 The 2.5% Shared DNA between Dave Bossart and me is on the high end and even exceeds the percentages shown here for full 3rd cousins. Like Comment census 1850 USA PA Elk Benzinger Wehage 20200617HAv- Larry Herbstritt 3 hrs 17 June 2020 John C Wetzel this is the Federal Census Death Schedule for Benzinger Township. It shows John Wehage 1John C Wetzel Like

  
  

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