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- [S2219] e-mail: Janice Kelley, Thursday, March 08, 2012 2:42 PM Subject: Photographs of my Grandmother.
From: Janice Kelley [mailto:janiced@dental.upenn.edu]
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 2:42 PM Subject: Photographs of my Grandmother
To: John Wetzel
Cc: Joyce Joyce Lynch
Subject: Photographs of my Grandmother
Hi John,
Thank you for your last e-mail message. I am very impressed by the amount of research you have done. I hope, somewhere along the line, our paths will cross.
I am forwarding some old photographs of my grandmother. Her many names include Adelaide Martin, Aileen Reece, Eileen Reece and Eileen Stark.
She eventually married Joseph Stark of Shamokin, PA. (German heritage).
I am preparing some other family photographs to send to you.
Perhaps you will find your great grandmother had visited New York at some point.
Have you established any link with your other DNA matches?
Sincerely,
Janice Kelley
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From: Janice Kelley [mailto:janiced@dental.upenn.edu] Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 2:42 PM To: John Wetzel Cc: Joyce Joyce Lynch Subject: Photographs of my Grandmother Hi John, Thank you for your last e-mail message. I am very impressed by the amount of research you have done. I hope, somewhere along the line, our paths will cross. I… |
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From: Janice Kelley [mailto:janiced@dental.upenn.edu] Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 2:42 PM To: John Wetzel Cc: Joyce Joyce Lynch Subject: Photographs of my Grandmother Hi John, Thank you for your last e-mail message. I am very impressed by the amount of research you have done. I hope, somewhere along the line, our paths will cross. I… |
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From: Janice Kelley [mailto:janiced@dental.upenn.edu] Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 2:42 PM To: John Wetzel Cc: Joyce Joyce Lynch Subject: Photographs of my Grandmother Hi John, Thank you for your last e-mail message. I am very impressed by the amount of research you have done. I hope, somewhere along the line, our paths will cross. I… |
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From: Janice Kelley [mailto:janiced@dental.upenn.edu] Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 2:42 PM To: John Wetzel Cc: Joyce Joyce Lynch Subject: Photographs of my Grandmother Hi John, Thank you for your last e-mail message. I am very impressed by the amount of research you have done. I hope, somewhere along the line, our paths will cross. I… |
- [S2219] e-mail: Janice Kelley, Wednesday, March 07, 2012 12:19 PM Subject: Re: DNA Match- yes! hopefully.
From: Janice Kelley [mailto:janiced@dental.upenn.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 12:19 PM Subject: Re: DNA Match- yes! hopefully
To: John Wetzel
Cc: Joyce Joyce Lynch
Subject: Re: DNA Match- yes! hopefully
My grandmother was one month old when she was adopted.
Her approximate date of birth would have been October 11, 1905.
She was indeed Anglosaxon. Appearance wise, she had a fair complexion, with light hair and blue eyes. (I have photos I can send you if this will help.)
From the DNA testing, the haplogroup indicates Ukraine area of descent.
I will copy my sister on our correspondence as she is also very interested.
On Mar 7, 2012, at 11:58 AM, John Wetzel wrote:
Ahh, yes!
She was my closest mtDNA match, so yes, VERY close.
Adopted in 1905, how old was she?
Can you estimate her birthdate?
This is getting fascinating, I'm hooked. I need to understand the science better. How are you on this, I mean, the significance of the alleles, the T, HVR1, etc?
I think it would help if I got some input from older family members, to narrow this down.
Any hints as to ethnicity? I assume she appears straight Anglosaxon.
Anything might help.
john
-----Original Message-----
From: Janice Kelley [mailto:janiced@dental.upenn.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 11:49 AM
To: John Wetzel
Subject: Re: DNA Match- yes! hopefully
I'm very sorry that I forgot to mention my maiden name.
Her DNA was submitted under Mary Louise DiPiero.
I hope we can find some link.
On Mar 7, 2012, at 11:43 AM, John Wetzel wrote:
Janice,
Do you mind if I ask your maiden name?
How were we matched? What name should I look for in searching for your mother's data as it relates to mine?
I have transferred most of my data from the DNA website into spreadsheets, so we need to find the data match.
We could trade data sets, if you're willing. It would be very interesting to see where we overlap.
What is your mother's married name?
I find no Starks in the name matches, so I guess I'm asking, under what name did she submit her sample for DNA testing?
I'm keen on resolving this, and together we should be able to do it.
Sincerely,
john
-----Original Message-----
From: Janice Kelley [mailto:janiced@dental.upenn.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2012 11:14 AM
To: John Wetzel
Subject: Re: DNA Match- yes! hopefully
Dear John,
Thank you so very much for the response and the details regarding your family search.
As I mentioned, my maternal grandmother was a foundling in New York's Harlem area.
She was found in the vestibule of a Boarding Home on November 11, 1905 by a Mr. Peter Hulsa (one of the renters). I believe this area of New York was quite nice at this time.
She was taken to Bellevue Hospital and named Adelaide Martin. She was placed in several foster homes until being adopted by Mr. and Mrs. Reece of Mount Carmel Pennsylvania.
She grew up and married Joseph Stark, so my mother's maiden (sic, married) name is Stark.
(My married name is Kelley.) We have been trying for many years to locate someone in my grandmother's blood line, but have been unsuccessful.
I don't have genealogy software, but perhaps I should look into this.
Many thanks for your assistance.
Sincerely,
Janice Kelley
On Mar 6, 2012, at 5:47 PM, John Wetzel wrote:
Dear Janice,
Absolutely! I mean, if I can.
I have over 20,000 people in my file and I have been focusing for the past few years on improving accuracy, documenting sources, etc.
I will certainly help if I can, because any info you share with me also improves my knowledge base.
My uncle was adopted by my grandparents when my aunt, their first child, became pregnant, in the mid-40's.
She left, got pregnant again, put this one up for adoption (it's a long story) and this half-sibling of my uncle/cousin finally made the connection when a professional genealogist he'd hired found the family about 5 years ago through my website, since I had the basic details in my tree.
It was such a happy discovery for all of us!
Sorry for the tangent, but this stuff really can have beneficial results.
Please share your maiden name and if you can give any other names and dates, I will look for matches.
Do you have genealogy software, like FTM (Family Tree Maker)? I can share GEDCOM files, if you do, or just send a printout (ecopy) of a genealogy report, which would give the relationships, etc.
I am excited to help, and to learn more about our connection.
It is exactly with such contacts in mind that I did the mitochondrial testing!
Sincerely,
John wetzel
-----Original Message-----
From: Janice Kelley [mailto:janiced@dental.upenn.edu]
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 2:54 PM
To: wetzupdoc@me.com
Subject: DNA Match
Dear Dr. Wetzel,
I received word from Family Tree DNA that there is a match between my mother and yourself.
We are actually attempting to find information regarding my mother's mother who was adopted in NYC in 1905.
We have no record of her biological family as she was a foundling.
Obviously, my grandmother has passed away but we continue the search for a link to her heritage.
Please let me know if you can shed any light on our situation.
Many thanks,
Sincerely,
Janice Kelley
- [S2219] e-mail: Janice Kelley, Thursday, March 15, 2012 10:40 PM Subject: FW: Photographs of my Grandmother; your immediate family; NYC records.
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-----Original Message-----
From: John Wetzel [mailto:wetzupdoc@me.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 10:40 PM Subject: FW: Photographs of my Grandmother; your immediate family; NYC records
To: john@wetzelfinechemicals.com
Subject: FW: Photographs of my Grandmother; your immediate family; NYC records
-----Original Message-----
From: Janice Kelley [mailto:janiced@dental.upenn.edu]
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 10:07 AM
To: John Wetzel
Subject: Re: Photographs of my Grandmother; your immediate family; NYC records
Hi John,
I will be sending you more information on my immediate family shortly.
Please feel free to share all photographs with your extended family in the hope of obtaining some further information.
My grandmother was born on or about October 11, 1905 according the The Catholic Home Bureau For Dependent Children located at 485 Madison Avenue New York New York. This was the address in 1932. It most probably has changed by now.
According to their records The City of New York accepted her for care on November 11, 1905. They were located at 1175 Third Ave., New York, NY.
On June 29, 1907 they asked the Catholic Home Bureau to place her for adoption since they were unable to locate any relatives. She was then placed with two families in Pennsylvania (Mr. and Mrs. Edward Steppy of Vilas, PA and Mr. and Mrs. Orville Slade of Jersey Shore, PA) and later adopted by Mr. and Mrs. Recci (Reece).
As I stated earlier, she was found at 9 West 124th Street by a Peter Hulsa in Harlem on 11/11/05. She was baptized at Bellevue Hospital, Chapel of the Blessed Sacrament on 10/13/05. A baptismal certificate in the case record shows Our Lady of the Scapular of Mount Carmel in New York City.
I will forward you some distinguishing characteristics soon.
So many thanks to you!!!
Janice Kelley
On Mar 13, 2012, at 9:11 PM, John Wetzel wrote:
> Janice,
> Would you please give me more information about your immediate family?
> Father's name, grandfather, etc.
> I'd like to start trying to fill in information from the present back, too.
> I am in NYC this week on business. If I could shake some time free,
> do you know where I should go to take another try at getting your great grandmother's birth information?
> john
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Janice Kelley [mailto:janiced@dental.upenn.edu]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 9:43 AM
> To: John Wetzel
> Subject: Re: Photographs of my Grandmother; Riccardo Rizzi, Reece,
> Race- this one?
> Hi John,
> We actually are unsure as to where my grandmother was born. Could have been in PA.
> She was left in NYC and believe was eventually brought to the Catholic Home Bureau from Bellevue Hospital.
> My mother vaguely remembers she may have been in another home prior to Catholic Home Bureau, but I'll have to check the name.
> She could have been born anywhere.
> Please keep me informed if you find anything.
> Best regards,
> Janice
> On Mar 11, 2012, at 8:30 PM, John Wetzel wrote:
>> Janice,
>> I just re-read you note, again.
>> Are you saying there are records at the Catholic Hospital that she was born there?
>> I was assuming that she was, or could have been, born in Potter County.
>> john
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: John Wetzel [mailto:wetzupdoc@me.com]
>> Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 8:27 PM
>> To: 'Janice Kelley'
>> Cc: 'Joyce Lynch'
>> Subject: RE: Photographs of my Grandmother; Riccardo Rizzi, Reece,
>> Race- this one?
>> Janice,
>> When I can, I am going to explore birth records in Potter County, and
>> I'll start with what might be available on-line. Failing that, I'll visit the courthouse next time I visit my father, who lives in Coudersport, PA (where I grew up and the town where Aileen aka... might have been born.
>> I understand the Rizzi connection; I guess I didn't understand Joyce's question.
>> Misspellings and other mistakes occur all too often.
>> How sure are you about the birth month/year?
>> This is very important. October 1905 fits biologically to my great grandmother and not with her only sister, Lily Dingman Thompson.
>> But a few months either way could affect the possible candidate. My current understanding is that it could be either sister, from the mtDNA passthrough, so the timing is right now the only delineator.
>> BTW, The reference of 'adopted' in 1910 is simply the census entry.
>> It does not suggest a year for the adoption, and it does not dispute the 1905 understanding.
>> The more minds and input we get on this, the better.
>> We may need some more information; I hope I can find birth records in Potter County.
>> Sincerely,
>> john
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Janice Kelley [mailto:janiced@dental.upenn.edu]
>> Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 8:04 PM
>> To: John Wetzel
>> Cc: Joyce Lynch
>> Subject: Re: Photographs of my Grandmother; Riccardo Rizzi, Reece, Race- this one?
>> Hi John,
>> Thanks so much for all the valuable information. I'm impressed at how thorough your research is.
>> It is so interesting, to say the least.
>> The Reece Family (Rizzi) were the adopted parents of my grandmother.
>> I'm wondering why the hospital gave her the name "Adelaide Martin".
>> They have records at the Catholic Home Bureau in New York City (where she was sent following the hospital). However, they will not release the records. My grandmother and mother had tried for many years.
>> They tell us the records are "sealed". They did mention that there is not a lot of information in her record, but I still try a way to find access them. I'm curious about the census information listing Adelle as adopted in 1910.
>> Is it possible the records misspelled her name and recorded the wrong year?
>> I will forward some of the information to my cousin, Rick Reece.
> So many thanks once again.
>> Sincerely,
>> Janice Kelley
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "John Wetzel"
>> To: "Joyce Lynch"
>> Cc: "Janice Kelley"
>> Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 10:08:42 AM
>> Subject: RE: Photographs of my Grandmother; Riccardo Rizzi, Reece, Race- this one?
>> Janice, Joyce,
>> Rizzi-Recce connection is made in the family portrait you (Janice) sent.
>> I agree with you, Joyce, that both of these passenger lists are probably irrelevant.
>>
>> I found the following census work, citing Adelle as 'adopted', and one year having been born in PA (1910 census), in the other in NY (1920 census).
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>> Interesting that there would be knowledge about her (possible) birth in PA, since she was simply left in a vestibule and found by a stranger in NYC. It could just be coincidence; the census is not the most reliable way to get even the birth state of an individual, changing from census to census in some instances, but this one is eye-popping.
>> This appears to be the family, but let me know if you think this is the wrong track. These census years were really informative, since progeny info (births, and those still living), immigration/ naturalization, times married / years married, etc are all noted.
>> Was your grgrandfather an ice cream merchant?
>> Immigrate in 1892?
>> Both censi below give birthdate ca 1876 in northern Austria (Tyrolea) and speaking German, not Italian, consistent with one of the passenger lists, btw.
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>> Names get butchered in censi and other official documents, beginning with the first steps off bord at Immigration.
>> You're the experts here, I'm just trying to catch up and get on bord.
>> Still no word from family on my inquiry; I'll make some calls this afternoon.
>> Sincerely,
>> john
>> 1920 United States Federal Census about Richard Reece
>> Name: Richard Reece
>> [Richard Recce]
>> [Richard Reecer]
>> [Richard Resser]
>> Age: 44
>> Birth Year: abt 1876
>> Birthplace: Austria
>> Home in 1920: Mount Carmel Ward 2, Northumberland, Pennsylvania
>> Race: White
>> Gender: Male
>> Immigration Year: 1892
>> Relation to Head of House: Head
>> Marital Status: Married
>> Spouse's Name: Mary Reece
>> Father's Birthplace: Austria
>> Mother's Birthplace:Austria
>> Home Owned: Own
>> Able to Read: Yes
>> Able to Write: Yes
>> Neighbors: View others on page
>> Household Members: Name Age immm/Naturalizatn
>> Richard Reece 44 head 1892 Na 1904 Austria/Tyrolean(Ger) Aust/Tyr(Ger) Aust/Tyr(Ger) Merchant
>> Mary Reece 37 wife 1882 Na 1904 Austria/Tyrolean(Ger) Aust/Tyr(Ger) Aust/Tyr(Ger)
>> Mary Reece 3 dau Penn Aust/Tyr(Ger) Aust/Tyr(Ger)
>> Adoline Reece 13 adopted NewYork USA USA
>> Alfred Reece 21 son Penn Aust/Tyr(Ger) Aust/Tyr(Ger) Laborer, ice C(ream) plant
>> Maize Reece 22 dau-in-law Penn Penn Penn
>> Source Citation: Year: 1920; Census Place: Mount Carmel Ward 2, Northumberland, Pennsylvania; Roll: T625_1612; Page: 17A; Enumeration District: 98; Image: 259.
>> ____________________________
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>> 1910 United States Federal Census about Richard Race
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>> Name: Richard Race
>> [Richard Recce]
>> [Richard Reece]
>> Age in 1910: 35
>> Birth Year: 1875
>> Birthplace: Austria
>> Home in 1910: MT Carmel Ward 1, Northumberland, Pennsylvania
>> Race: White
>> Gender: Male
>> Immigration Year: 1892
>> Relation to Head of House: Head
>> [Self (Head)]
>> Marital Status: Married
>> Spouse's Name: Mary Race
>> Father's Birthplace: Austria
>> Mother's Birthplace: Austria
>> Neighbors: View others on page
>> Household Members:
Name Age
>> Richard Race 35 M1 12yr Austrian/Tyrolean (German) Aust/Tyr(Ger) Aust/Tyr(Ger) Merchant ice cream
>> Mary Race 27 M1 12yr 1/1 Austrian/Tyrolean (German) Aust/Tyr(Ger) Aust/Tyr(Ger) none
>> Alice Race 18 S sister-in-law Pennsylvania Aust/Tyr(Ger) Aust/Tyr(Ger) waitress
>> Catharine Mchale 17 S servant Pennsylvania PA PA waitress restaurant
>> Lee Dickundue 23 S hired man Austrian/Tyrolean (German) Aust/Tyr(Ger) Aust/Tyr(Ger laborer warehouse imm 1897 Na
>> Allene Race 4 S dau Pennsylvaniia Aust/Tyr(Ger) Aust/Tyr(Ger) none
>> Alfred Race 11 S son Pennsylvaniia Aust/Tyr(Ger) Aust/Tyr(Ger) student school
>> Source Citation: Year: 1910; Census Place: MT Carmel Ward 1,
>> Northumberland, Pennsylvania; Roll: T624_1383; Page: 1A; Enumeration
>> District: 0079; Image: 771; FHL microfilm: 1375396.
>> From: Joyce Lynch [mailto:joycedipiero1@hotmail.com]
>> Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 7:35 AM
>> To: wetzupdoc@me.com
>> Subject: RE: Photographs of my Grandmother; Riccardo Rizzi- this one?
>> Janice - I think he's headed in the wrong direction. What do you think?
I don't think the Recce and Rizzi are the same family. DO you?
>> From: wetzupdoc@me.com
>> To: janiced@dental.upenn.edu
>> CC: joycedipiero1@hotmail.com
>> Subject: RE: Photographs of my Grandmother; Riccardo Rizzi- this one?
>> Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 11:30:57 -0500
>> Sorry to pummel you with these, but this one makes more sense. Is this your ancestor?
>> He still seems too old to be the patriarch in the family photo, but names seem to fit better. I'm attaching the passenger list, can't read some of it.
>> Philadelphia Passenger Lists, 1800-1945 about Ricardo Rizzi
>> Name: Ricardo Rizzi
>> Arrival Date: 27 Apr 1902
>> Age: 24 Years
>> Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878
>> Gender: Male
>> Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
>> Ship Name: Haverford
>> Port of Arrival: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
>> Last Residence: Italy
>> Microfilm Roll Number: T840_39
>> name age etc relation profession national'y last port arr final destination before in USA? will stay with?
>> 228 Mario Rizzi 24 m S stonecutter Italian Italy Northern(?)NewYork 3 yrs ago brother, Stafano Rizzi in Barre,NY
>> 228 Ricardo Rizzi 24 m S cousin stonecutter Italian Italy " NewYork No no no
>> 228 Arturo Rizzi 3 m S nephew child Italian Italy " NY born in Quincy,MD father Stfano Rizzi in Barre,NY
>> 228 Palmira Rizzi 50 f M wife Italian Italy " NY yes, 1898/9 husband Angelo
>> 228 Adele Rizzi 22 f M wife Italian Italy " NY 3 yrs ago A Rizzi, NY, 45 Clifton Ave ... heard of 3 mo ago(?)
>> Source Citation: Roll: T840_39; Line: 16.
>> Source Information: Ancestry.com. Philadelphia Passenger Lists, 1800-1945 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2006.
>> From: John Wetzel [mailto:wetzupdoc@me.com]
>> Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 10:24 AM
>> To: 'Janice Kelley'
>> Cc: 'Joyce Joyce Lynch'
>> Subject: RE: Photographs of my Grandmother; Riccardo Rizzi- this one?
>> Janice,
>> Is this your grgrandfather, born in Italy in 1879?
>> The patriarch in the family portrait?
>> New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 about Riccardo Rizzi
>> Name: Riccardo Rizzi
>> Arrival Date: 31 Mar 1912
>> Birth Year: abt 1879
>> Birth Location: Italy
>> Birth Location Other: wiggrin
>> Age: 33
>> Gender: Male
>> Ethnicity/Race-/Nationality: Italian (North) (Italian)
>> Port of Departure: Le Havre
>> Port of Arrival: New York, New York
>> Ship Name: La Savoie
>> Search Ship Database: Search the La Savoie in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
>> Source Citation: Year: 1912; ; Microfilm Serial: T715; Microfilm Roll: T715_1830; Line: 25; ; Page Number: 146.
>> Source Information: Ancestry.com. New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2010.
>> Original data: Passenger Lists of Vessels Arriving at New York, New York, 1820-1897; (National Archives Microfilm Publication M237, 675 rolls); Records of the U.S. Customs Service, Record Group 36; National Archives, Washington, D.C.
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>> Passenger and Crew Lists of Vessels Arriving at New York, New York, 1897-1957; (National Archives Microfilm Publication T715, 8892 rolls); Records of the Immigration and Naturalization Service; National Archives, Washington, D.C.
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>> Description: This database is an index to the passenger lists of ships arriving from foreign ports at the port of New York from 1820-1957. In addition, the names found in the index are linked to actual images of the passenger lists. Information contained in the index includes given name, surname, age, gender, arrival date, port of arrival, port of departure and ship name.
>> From: John Wetzel [mailto:wetzupdoc@me.com]
>> Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 10:15 AM
>> To: 'Janice Kelley'
>> Cc: 'Joyce Joyce Lynch'
>> Subject: RE: Photographs of my Grandmother
>> Janice,
>> Regarding the 'Recce Reece' thing, it's obviously a hold-over from Rizzi.
>> But it does sound like the name has been evolving. What do they use now?
>> Or is it evolving differently in different branches by now?
>> john
>> From: John Wetzel [mailto:wetzupdoc@me.com]
>> Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2012 9:36 AM
>> To: 'Janice Kelley'
>> Cc: 'Joyce Joyce Lynch'
>> Subject: RE: Photographs of my Grandmother
>> Janice,
>> Is the 1965 photo of you and your sister?
>> Would you please clarify Recce and Reece? Was someone simply spelling it wrong or was it old-world spelling?
>> john
>> From: Janice Kelley [mailto:janiced@dental.upenn.edu]
>> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 2:42 PM
>> To: John Wetzel
>> Cc: Joyce Joyce Lynch
>> Subject: Photographs of my Grandmother
>> Hi John,
>> Thank you for your last e-mail message. I am very impressed by the amount of research you have done. I hope, somewhere along the line, our paths will cross.
>> I am forwarding some old photographs of my grandmother. Her many names include Adelaide Martin, Aileen Reece, Eileen Reece and Eileen Stark.
>> She eventually married Joseph Stark of Shamokin, PA. (German heritage).
>> I am preparing some other family photographs to send to you.
>> Perhaps you will find your great grandmother had visited New York at some point.
>> Have you established any link with your other DNA matches?
>> Sincerely,
>> Janice Kelley
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Subject: Your grandmother's bio parents, from 2012
Date: Feb 7, 2024 at 2:08 PM
To: janiced@dental.upenn.edu
Dear Janice,
I am writing to learn if you have made any progress in your search for your grandmother's biological parents. For reference, I have copied our 2012 correspondence below.
My email address has not changed in the meantime, but I realize that your may have, as I've tried to contact you before without luck. I'm really curious, so here goes again.
I strongly suspect that my great grandparents Fred and Josephine Dingman Snyder of Hebron township, Potter County, Penna may be her parents, since there is a gap of 4 years between my grandmother, Iva Snyder Spring and your next younger sister, 1904-1908. On the other hand, the next sibling, and last, was born in 1913.
So, please write if you get this and we can put our heads together to try again with hopefully new information.
Sincerely,
john
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