Vance, James Lee sr b. 22 Sep 1929 Jackson, Breathitt, Kentucky, USA d. 16 Oct 1997 Middletown, Butler, Ohio, USA: WETZEL Extended Family & More

Vance, James Lee sr

1929 - 1997 (68 years)

Name	Vance, James Lee [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]
	p. 24 of 234, iBook also note: From: Janice/Tom Vance [mailto:vancetj@zoomnet.net] Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2016 8:16 AM To: wetzupdoc@me.com Subject: Vances Sent from my iPad On Dec 30, 2016, at 7:42 PM, Janice/Tom Vance > wrote: It must be your new site since you used JD's book. Wilburn Lee is not the same one as the one with Carl. JD started his book several years ago and didn't know all the information that has been discovered the last 2 months. James Lee, Jr (uncle Jimmy) had his DNA done and came up with a match to my husband and the other Vances in the same group. Cousin Barbara Vance Cherep and I contacted him and helped him solve the mystery of who his grandparents are. Wilburn Lee Vance is the son of Meek and Laura France Vance and was born in Mingo Co, WV in 1906. He is listed as Wilburn in the 1910 Census and Lee in the 1920 Census. He died in March 1929 in Hamilton, OH before James Lee Vance, Sr was born. Uncle Jimmy lives in TX and he came to Ky and Oh to meet his new found kin the first of December. Cousin Barbara, my husband and I met him, his sister, Lori and JD in Washington CH, Oh. Abner had two brothers that we know of. They are John and Matthew. They were in NC, SC and TN. Their father was Matthew Vance that married Anne Jones in Philly in 1746. We have lots of records. Which child of Abners do you descend from. My husband comes down through Abner, Jr and daughter Mary that married Janes Brown. Barbara Vance Cherep comes down through Abners brother, John. Where do you live. I am in Point Pleasant, WV. Cousin Barbara has written a book "Historical Recordings of Matthew Vance and Descendants". She only had 130 printed but is going to do more when she gets it up dated. She also wrote "The Feuding Truth" about Jim M Vance and Family. Also "Tug River People of Appalachia", this one is abstracts of Pike and Logan Court Records. The last two books are on Amazon. She hasn't sold very many but it didn't cost her anything either. We have been working together for the last 10 years since we found out that her father and my husband were DNA matches. We have been on lots of trips to Court Houses and where the Vances have lived. We think Abner was born in Augusta Co, Va near James River and Natural Bridge. Sorry this is so long. Write and tell me a little about you. I can help with whatever you want. I will enter your information in my tree on your Vance line. Thanks for the reply. Janice (and Tom) Thanks for your email. I have a hard time following messages on ancestry. I wrote this last night on my phone and couldn't send it. I did look at your family tree and some of the names. Barbara wrote Two Sides to Every Story which I believe you have read. You have so much information on you family tree. Don't know how you have done it. It does take years. p. 24 of 234, iBook p. 24 of 234, iBook also note: From: Janice/Tom Vance [mailto:vancetj@zoomnet.net] Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2016 8:16 AM To: wetzupdoc@me.com Subject: Vances Sent from my iPad On Dec 30, 2016, at 7:42 PM, Janice/Tom Vance > wrote: It must be your new site since you used JD's book. Wilburn Lee is not the same one as the one with Carl. JD started his book several years ago and didn't know all the information that has been discovered the last 2 months. James Lee, Jr (uncle Jimmy) had his DNA done and came up with a match to my husband and the other Vances in the same group. Cousin Barbara Vance Cherep and I contacted him and helped him solve the mystery of who his grandparents are. Wilburn Lee Vance is the son of Meek and Laura France Vance and was born in Mingo Co, WV in 1906. He is listed as Wilburn in the 1910 Census and Lee in the 1920 Census. He died in March 1929 in Hamilton, OH before James Lee Vance, Sr was born. Uncle Jimmy lives in TX and he came to Ky and Oh to meet his new found kin the first of December. Cousin Barbara, my husband and I met him, his sister, Lori and JD in Washington CH, Oh. Abner had two brothers that we know of. They are John and Matthew. They were in NC, SC and TN. Their father was Matthew Vance that married Anne Jones in Philly in 1746. We have lots of records. Which child of Abners do you descend from. My husband comes down through Abner, Jr and daughter Mary that married Janes Brown. Barbara Vance Cherep comes down through Abners brother, John. Where do you live. I am in Point Pleasant, WV. Cousin Barbara has written a book "Historical Recordings of Matthew Vance and Descendants". She only had 130 printed but is going to do more when she gets it up dated. She also wrote "The Feuding Truth" about Jim M Vance and Family. Also "Tug River People of Appalachia", this one is abstracts of Pike and Logan Court Records. The last two books are on Amazon. She hasn't sold very many but it didn't cost her anything either. We have been working together for the last 10 years since we found out that her father and my husband were DNA matches. We have been on lots of trips to Court Houses and where the Vances have lived. We think Abner was born in Augusta Co, Va near James River and Natural Bridge. Sorry this is so long. Write and tell me a little about you. I can help with whatever you want. I will enter your information in my tree on your Vance line. Thanks for the reply. Janice (and Tom) Thanks for your email. I have a hard time following messages on ancestry. I wrote this last night on my phone and couldn't send it. I did look at your family tree and some of the names. Barbara wrote Two Sides to Every Story which I believe you have read. You have so much information on you family tree. Don't know how you have done it. It does take years.
Suffix	sr
Birth	22 Sep 1929	Jackson, Breathitt, Kentucky, USA [1, 3, 4, 5]
	p. 27 of 234, iBook: "at some point in 1946, Papaw cheated on Bonnie (South) with her best friend- Mamaw. Mamaw was 13 and Papaw 16, but the affair produced a pregnancy." Papaw was 16 in 1946, when Mamaw (13) got pregnant
Gender	Male
DNAncestry	ancestry.com notes- James Lee Vance, Sr JaniceVance Dec 30, 2016 Just for your information, James Lee Vance, Sr born 1929 was son of Wilburn Lee Vance (not Carl) and born in Breathitt, KY. His grandparents are Meek Vance and Laura France that were from Mingo or Wayne Co, WV. These Vance go back to Richard Vance, son of Abner Vance. Abner's father was Matthew Vance. I was just scanning the internet and found your site. This has been proven by the DNA of James Lee Vance, Jr. If you have any questions, feel free to contact me. ancestry.com notes- From: Janice/Tom Vance [mailto:vancetj@zoomnet.net] Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2016 8:16 AM To: wetzupdoc@me.com Subject: Vances Sent from my iPad On Dec 30, 2016, at 7:42 PM, Janice/Tom Vance > wrote: It must be your new site since you used JD's book. Wilburn Lee is not the same one as the one with Carl. JD started his book several years ago and didn't know all the information that has been discovered the last 2 months. James Lee, Jr (uncle Jimmy) had his DNA done and came up with a match to my husband and the other Vances in the same group. Cousin Barbara Vance Cherep and I contacted him and helped him solve the mystery of who his grandparents are. Wilburn Lee Vance is the son of Meek and Laura France Vance and was born in Mingo Co, WV in 1906. He is listed as Wilburn in the 1910 Census and Lee in the 1920 Census. He died in March 1929 in Hamilton, OH before James Lee Vance, Sr was born. Uncle Jimmy lives in TX and he came to Ky and Oh to meet his new found kin the first of December. Cousin Barbara, my husband and I met him, his sister, Lori and JD in Washington CH, Oh. Abner had two brothers that we know of. They are John and Matthew. They were in NC, SC and TN. Their father was Matthew Vance that married Anne Jones in Philly in 1746. We have lots of records. Which child of Abners do you descend from. My husband comes down through Abner, Jr and daughter Mary that married Janes Brown. Barbara Vance Cherep comes down through Abners brother, John. Where do you live. I am in Point Pleasant, WV. Cousin Barbara has written a book "Historical Recordings of Matthew Vance and Descendants". She only had 130 printed but is going to do more when she gets it up dated. She also wrote "The Feuding Truth" about Jim M Vance and Family. Also "Tug River People of Appalachia", this one is abstracts of Pike and Logan Court Records. The last two books are on Amazon. She hasn't sold very many but it didn't cost her anything either. We have been working together for the last 10 years since we found out that her father and my husband were DNA matches. We have been on lots of trips to Court Houses and where the Vances have lived. We think Abner was born in Augusta Co, Va near James River and Natural Bridge. Sorry this is so long. Write and tell me a little about you. I can help with whatever you want. I will enter your information in my tree on your Vance line. Thanks for the reply. Janice (and Tom) Thanks for your email. I have a hard time following messages on ancestry. I wrote this last night on my phone and couldn't send it. I did look at your family tree and some of the names. Barbara wrote Two Sides to Every Story which I believe you have read. You have so much information on you family tree. Don't know how you have done it. It does take years. ancestry.com notes- James Lee Vance, Sr JaniceVance Dec 30, 2016 Just for your information, James Lee Vance, Sr born 1929 was son of Wilburn Lee Vance (not Carl) and born in Breathitt, KY. His grandparents are Meek Vance and Laura France that were from Mingo or Wayne Co, WV. These Vance go back to Richard Vance, son of Abner Vance. Abner's father was Matthew Vance. I was just scanning the internet and found your site. This has been proven by the DNA of James Lee Vance, Jr. If you have any questions, feel free to contact me. From: Janice/Tom Vance [mailto:vancetj@zoomnet.net] Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2016 8:16 AM To: wetzupdoc@me.com Subject: Vances Sent from my iPad On Dec 30, 2016, at 7:42 PM, Janice/Tom Vance > wrote: It must be your new site since you used JD's book. Wilburn Lee is not the same one as the one with Carl. JD started his book several years ago and didn't know all the information that has been discovered the last 2 months. James Lee, Jr (uncle Jimmy) had his DNA done and came up with a match to my husband and the other Vances in the same group. Cousin Barbara Vance Cherep and I contacted him and helped him solve the mystery of who his grandparents are. Wilburn Lee Vance is the son of Meek and Laura France Vance and was born in Mingo Co, WV in 1906. He is listed as Wilburn in the 1910 Census and Lee in the 1920 Census. He died in March 1929 in Hamilton, OH before James Lee Vance, Sr was born. Uncle Jimmy lives in TX and he came to Ky and Oh to meet his new found kin the first of December. Cousin Barbara, my husband and I met him, his sister, Lori and JD in Washington CH, Oh. Abner had two brothers that we know of. They are John and Matthew. They were in NC, SC and TN. Their father was Matthew Vance that married Anne Jones in Philly in 1746. We have lots of records. Which child of Abners do you descend from. My husband comes down through Abner, Jr and daughter Mary that married Janes Brown. Barbara Vance Cherep comes down through Abners brother, John. Where do you live. I am in Point Pleasant, WV. Cousin Barbara has written a book "Historical Recordings of Matthew Vance and Descendants". She only had 130 printed but is going to do more when she gets it up dated. She also wrote "The Feuding Truth" about Jim M Vance and Family. Also "Tug River People of Appalachia", this one is abstracts of Pike and Logan Court Records. The last two books are on Amazon. She hasn't sold very many but it didn't cost her anything either. We have been working together for the last 10 years since we found out that her father and my husband were DNA matches. We have been on lots of trips to Court Houses and where the Vances have lived. We think Abner was born in Augusta Co, Va near James River and Natural Bridge. Sorry this is so long. Write and tell me a little about you. I can help with whatever you want. I will enter your information in my tree on your Vance line. Thanks for the reply. Janice (and Tom) Thanks for your email. I have a hard time following messages on ancestry. I wrote this last night on my phone and couldn't send it. I did look at your family tree and some of the names. Barbara wrote Two Sides to Every Story which I believe you have read. You have so much information on you family tree. Don't know how you have done it. It does take years.
Name	James L Vance [6]
Name	Papaw
Residence	1930	Jackson, Breathitt, Kentucky, USA [3]
Residence	Between 1935 and 1993	Middletown, Butler, Ohio, USA [3, 6]
_NAMS	Lee Vance, his father
Death	16 Oct 1997	Middletown, Butler, Ohio, USA [1, 3, 4]
	James Lee Vance Birth: Sep. 22, 1929 Breathitt County, Kentucky, USA Death: Oct. 16, 1997 Middletown, Butler County, Ohio, USA Son of [Carl] Lee Vance (1906-1929) and Goldie Taulbee (later Blackmon). Married Bonnie Blanton. Family links: Parents: Goldie M. Taulbee Blackmon (1912 - 1993) Spouse: Bonnie Eloise Blanton Vance (1933 - 2005) Note: Probably buried in Hounshell Family Cemetery with his wife Bonnie, but this must be verified. His Ohio death record states "Burial out of state". Burial: Unknown Created by: HWA Record added: Sep 14, 2016 Find A Grave Memorial# 169912893
Person ID	I65066	WETZEL-SPRING

Father	Vance, Wilburn Lee, b. 22 Aug 1905, Mingo County, West Virginia, USA d. 5 Mar 1929, Cincinnati, Hamilton, Ohio, USA (Age 23 years)
Relationship	natural
Mother	Taulbee, Goldie Mae, b. 24 Jun 1912, Jackson, Breathitt, Kentucky, USA d. 6 Jul 1993, Middletown, Butler, Ohio, USA (Age 81 years)
Relationship	natural
Marriage	5 Jan 1928	Scioto, Jackson, Ohio, USA
	20241114GHLn- "Scioto, Ohio, United States records," images, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G9S5-59Q9-4?view=index : Nov 15, 2024), image 192 of 342; . 005628154 Name Wilbur L Vance Sex Male Age 22 years Birth ca 1906 Father Meek Vance Mother Laura B France Spouse Goldie Belomy her Sex Female her Age 18 years her Birth ca 1910 her Father Lumb Belomy Mother's Mary L Rudd Event Marriage 5 January 1928 Scioto, Ohio, US Wilbur L Vance's Parents Laura B France Mother Meek Vance Father Wilbur L Vance's Spouses and Children Goldie Belomy Wife 18 years Name Wilbur L Vance Sex Male Age 22 years Birth ca 1906 Father Meek Vance Mother Laura B France Spouse Goldie Belomy her Age 18 years her Birth ca 1910 her Father Lumb Belomy her Mother Mary L Rudd Marriage 5 January 1928 Scioto, Ohio, US Wilbur(n) is 22, a steel worker in new Boston, OH; Goldie is 18, a student in New Boston. 1st marriage for both.
		Vance - Belomy marr 20241114GHLn- "Scioto, Ohio, United States records," images, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G9S5-59Q9-4?view=index : Nov 15, 2024), image 192 of 342; . 005628154 Name Wilbur L Vance Sex Male Age 22 years Birth ca 1906 Father Meek Vance Mother Laura B France Spouse Goldie Belomy her Sex Female her Age 18 years her…
Family ID	F45640	Group Sheet \| Family Chart

Family Blanton, Bonnie Elois, b. 16 Apr 1933, Jackson, Breathitt, Kentucky, USA d. 24 Apr 2005, Middletown, Butler, Ohio, USA (Age 72 years)

Marriage 1947 Jackson, Breathitt, Kentucky, USA [5, 6]

p. 27 of 234, iBook:
"at some point in 1946, Papaw cheated on Bonnie (South) with her best friend- Mamaw. Mamaw was 13 and Papaw 16, but the affair produced a pregnancy."

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James L Vance in the Ohio, U.S., Divorce Abstracts, 1962-1963, 1967-1971, 1973-2007
Ohio, U.S., Divorce Abstracts, 1962-1963, 1967-1971, 1973-2007
text only
Name James L Vance
Decree 19 May 1981
Butler, Ohio, USA
Res Middletown, Butler
Grounds Gross Neglect/Extreme Cruelty
granted Wife
Marriage 33 years
Minor Children 0
Spouse Bonnie Vance
Cert 17635
Volume 4567
33 years. "Mamaw and Papaw were married as teenagers in Jackson, in 1947."

Issue, jt Between 1948 and 1958 Middletown, Butler, Ohio, USA [5, 7]

"Mamaw suffered 8 miscarriages in the decade between Uncle Jimmy's birth and my mother's."

"Mamaw suffered 8 miscarriages in the decade between Uncle Jimmy's birth and my mother's."

p.37- Mamaw and Papaw had three kids- Jimmy, Bev (my mom) and Lori.
Jimmy was born in 1951, when Mamaw and Papaw were integrating into their lives. They wanted more children, so the tried and tried, through a heartbreaking period of terrible luck and numerous miscarriages. Mamaw carried the emotional scars of nine lost children for her entire life.
Mom was born on January 20, 1961-- the day of John F. Kennedy's inauguration-- and my aunt Lori came along less than two years later. For whatever reason, Mamaw and Papaw stopped there.
p.38- Whatever unity they possessed early in their marriage bagan to evaporate after their daughter, Lori-- whom I call Aunt Wee-- was born in 1962.
p.39- Before Mamaw was married, her brothers had been willing to murder boys who disrespected their sister. Now that she was married to a man whom many of them considered more a brother than an outsider, they tolerated behavior that would have gotten Papaw killed in the holler. "Mom's brothers would come up and want to go carousing with Dad," Uncle Jimmy explained... Uncle Pet was always the leader.
p. 41- It's not obvious to anyone why Mamaw and Papaw's marriage fell apart. Perhaps Papaw's alcoholism got the best of him. Uncle Jimmy suspects that he eventually "ran around" on Mamaw. Or maybe Mamaw just cracked-- with three living kids, one dead one, and a host of miscarriages in between, who could have blamed her?

p.42- All three children were profoundly affected by their tumultuous home life.
Lori struggled in school, mostly because she never attended class.

p.43 The next year, at sixteen, Lori dropped out of high school and married. She immediately found herself trapped in an abusive home just like the one she'd tried to escape. Her new husband would lock her in a bedroom to keep her from seeing her family. "It was almost like a prison," Aunt Wee later told me.
Unfortunately the statistics caught up with the Vance family, and BEV (my mom) didn't fare so well. Like her siblings, she left home early. She was a promising student, but when she got pregnant at eighteen, she decided college had to wait.
After high school, she married her boyfriend and tried to settle down. But settling down wasn't quite her thing: She had learned the lessons of her childhood all too well. When her new life developed the same fighting and drama so present in her old one, Mom filed for divorce and began life as a single mother. She was nineteen, with no degree, no husband, and a little girl- my sister, Lindsay.
"Mamaw suffered 8 miscarriages in the decade between Uncle Jimmy's birth and my mother's."

p.37- Mamaw and Papaw had three kids- Jimmy, Bev (my mom) and Lori.
Jimmy was born in 1951, when Mamaw and Papaw were integrating into their lives. They wanted more children, so they tried and tried, through a heartbreaking period of terrible luck and numerous miscarriages. Mamaw carried the emotional scars of nine lost children for her entire life.
Mom was born on January 20, 1961-- the day of John F. Kennedy's inauguration-- and my aunt Lori came along less than two years later. For whatever reason, Mamaw and Papaw stopped there.
p.38- Whatever unity they possessed early in their marriage bagan to evaporate after their daughter, Lori-- whom I call Aunt Wee-- was born in 1962.
p.39- Before Mamaw was married, her brothers had been willing to murder boys who disrespected their sister. Now that she was married to a man whom many of them considered more a brother than an outsider, they tolerated behavior that would have gotten Papaw killed in the holler. "Mom's brothers would come up and want to go carousing with Dad," Uncle Jimmy explained... Uncle Pet was always the leader.
p. 41- It's not obvious to anyone why Mamaw and Papaw's marriage fell apart. Perhaps Papaw's alcoholism got the best of him. Uncle Jimmy suspects that he eventually "ran around" on Mamaw. Or maybe Mamaw just cracked-- with three living kids, one dead one, and a host of miscarriages in between, who could have blamed her?

p.42- All three children were profoundly affected by their tumultuous home life.
Lori struggled in school, mostly because she never attended class.

p.43 The next year, at sixteen, Lori dropped out of high school and married. She immediately found herself trapped in an abusive home just like the one she'd tried to escape. Her new husband would lock her in a bedroom to keep her from seeing her family. "It was almost like a prison," Aunt Wee later told me.
Unfortunately the statistics caught up with the Vance family, and BEV (my mom) didn't fare so well. Like her siblings, she left home early. She was a promising student, but when she got pregnant at eighteen, she decided college had to wait.
After high school, she married her boyfriend and tried to settle down. But settling down wasn't quite her thing: She had learned the lessons of her childhood all too well. When her new life developed the same fighting and drama so present in her old one, Mom filed for divorce and began life as a single mother. She was nineteen, with no degree, no husband, and a little girl- my sister, Lindsay.
"Mamaw suffered 8 miscarriages in the decade between Uncle Jimmy's birth and my mother's."

p.37- Mamaw and Papaw had three kids- Jimmy, Bev (my mom) and Lori.
Jimmy was born in 1951, when Mamaw and Papaw were integrating into their lives. They wanted more children, so they tried and tried, through a heartbreaking period of terrible luck and numerous miscarriages. Mamaw carried the emotional scars of nine lost children for her entire life.
Mom was born on January 20, 1961-- the day of John F. Kennedy's inauguration-- and my aunt Lori came along less than two years later. For whatever reason, Mamaw and Papaw stopped there.
p.38- Whatever unity they possessed early in their marriage bagan to evaporate after their daughter, Lori-- whom I call Aunt Wee-- was born in 1962.
p.39- Before Mamaw was married, her brothers had been willing to murder boys who disrespected their sister. Now that she was married to a man whom many of them considered more a brother than an outsider, they tolerated behavior that would have gotten Papaw killed in the holler. "Mom's brothers would come up and want to go carousing with Dad," Uncle Jimmy explained... Uncle Pet was always the leader.
p. 41- It's not obvious to anyone why Mamaw and Papaw's marriage fell apart. Perhaps Papaw's alcoholism got the best of him. Uncle Jimmy suspects that he eventually "ran around" on Mamaw. Or maybe Mamaw just cracked-- with three living kids, one dead one, and a host of miscarriages in between, who could have blamed her?

p.42- All three children were profoundly affected by their tumultuous home life.
Lori struggled in school, mostly because she never attended class.

p.43 The next year, at sixteen, Lori dropped out of high school and married. She immediately found herself trapped in an abusive home just like the one she'd tried to escape. Her new husband would lock her in a bedroom to keep her from seeing her family. "It was almost like a prison," Aunt Wee later told me.
Unfortunately the statistics caught up with the Vance family, and BEV (my mom) didn't fare so well. Like her siblings, she left home early. She was a promising student, but when she got pregnant at eighteen, she decided college had to wait.
After high school, she married her boyfriend and tried to settle down. But settling down wasn't quite her thing: She had learned the lessons of her childhood all too well. When her new life developed the same fighting and drama so present in her old one, Mom filed for divorce and began life as a single mother. She was nineteen, with no degree, no husband, and a little girl- my sister, Lindsay.

Divorce 19 May 1981 Butler County, Ohio, USA [6]

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James L Vance in the Ohio, U.S., Divorce Abstracts, 1962-1963, 1967-1971, 1973-2007
Ohio, U.S., Divorce Abstracts, 1962-1963, 1967-1971, 1973-2007
text only
Name James L Vance
Decree 19 May 1981
Butler, Ohio, USA
Res Middletown, Butler
Grounds Gross Neglect/Extreme Cruelty
granted Wife
Marriage 33 years
Minor Children 0
Spouse Bonnie Vance
Cert 17635
Volume 4567
Minor Children: 0. To Wife: Grounds: Gross Neglect/Extreme Cruelty

Children

	1. Vance, Beverly Carol, b. 20 Jan 1961, Middletown, Butler, Ohio, USA d. 20 Jan 2016 (Age 55 years) [Father: natural] [Mother: natural]
	2. Vance, L.
	3. Vance, infant, b. 1947, Dayton, Montgomery, Ohio, USA d. 1947, Dayton, Montgomery, Ohio, USA (Age 0 years) [Father: natural] [Mother: natural]
	4. Vance, J.L. jr.

Family ID F45633 Group Sheet | Family Chart

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	Birth - 22 Sep 1929 - Jackson, Breathitt, Kentucky, USA
	Residence - 1930 - Jackson, Breathitt, Kentucky, USA
	Residence - Between 1935 and 1993 - Middletown, Butler, Ohio, USA
	Marriage - 1947 - Jackson, Breathitt, Kentucky, USA
	Issue, jt - "Mamaw suffered 8 miscarriages in the decade between Uncle Jimmy's birth and my mother's." - Between 1948 and 1958 - Middletown, Butler, Ohio, USA
	Divorce - 19 May 1981 - Butler County, Ohio, USA
	Death - 16 Oct 1997 - Middletown, Butler, Ohio, USA

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Record for James Lee Vance James Lee Vance Birth: Sep. 22, 1929 Breathitt County, Kentucky, USA Death: Oct. 16, 1997 Middletown, Butler County, Ohio, USA Son of [Carl] Lee Vance (1906-1929) and Goldie Taulbee (later Blackmon). Married Bonnie Blanton. Family links: Parents: Goldie M. Taulbee Blackmon (1912 - 1993) Spouse: Bonnie Eloise Blanton Vance (1933 - 2005) Note: Probably buried in Hounshell Family Cemetery with his wife Bonnie, but this must be verified. His Ohio death record states "Burial out of state". Burial: Unknown Created by: HWA Record added: Sep 14, 2016 Find A Grave Memorial# 169912893
James Lee Vance
Birth: Sep. 22, 1929
Breathitt County, Kentucky, USA
Death: Oct. 16, 1997
Middletown, Butler County, Ohio, USA

Son of [Carl] Lee Vance (1906-1929) and Goldie Taulbee (later Blackmon).
Married Bonnie Blanton.

Family links:
Parents: Goldie M. Taulbee Blackmon (1912 - 1993)
Spouse: Bonnie Eloise Blanton Vance (1933 - 2005)

Note: Probably buried in Hounshell Family Cemetery with his wife Bonnie, but this must be verified.
His Ohio death record states "Burial out of state".

Burial: Unknown

Created by: HWA
Record added: Sep 14, 2016
Find A Grave Memorial# 169912893
[S2113] e-mail: Vance, Janice & Tom, Wilburn Lee is not the same one as the one with Carl.
From: Janice/Tom Vance [mailto:vancetj@zoomnet.net] Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2016 8:16 AM To: wetzupdoc@me.com Subject: Vances Sent from my iPad On Dec 30, 2016, at 7:42 PM, Janice/Tom Vance <vancetj@zoomnet.net <mailto:vancetj@zoomnet.net>> wrote: It must be your new site since you used JD's book. Wilburn Lee is not the same one as the one with Carl. JD started his book several years ago and didn't know all the information that has been discovered the last 2 months. James Lee, Jr (uncle Jimmy) had his DNA done and came up with a match to my husband and the other Vances in the same group. Cousin Barbara Vance Cherep and I contacted him and helped him solve the mystery of who his grandparents are. Wilburn Lee Vance is the son of Meek and Laura France Vance and was born in Mingo Co, WV in 1906. He is listed as Wilburn in the 1910 Census and Lee in the 1920 Census. He died in March 1929 in Hamilton, OH before James Lee Vance, Sr was born. Uncle Jimmy lives in TX and he came to Ky and Oh to meet his new found kin the first of December. Cousin Barbara, my husband and I met him, his sister, Lori and JD in Washington CH, Oh. Abner had two brothers that we know of. They are John and Matthew. They were in NC, SC and TN. Their father was Matthew Vance that married Anne Jones in Philly in 1746. We have lots of records. Which child of Abners do you descend from. My husband comes down through Abner, Jr and daughter Mary that married Janes Brown. Barbara Vance Cherep comes down through Abners brother, John. Where do you live. I am in Point Pleasant, WV. Cousin Barbara has written a book "Historical Recordings of Matthew Vance and Descendants". She only had 130 printed but is going to do more when she gets it up dated. She also wrote "The Feuding Truth" about Jim M Vance and Family. Also "Tug River People of Appalachia", this one is abstracts of Pike and Logan Court Records. The last two books are on Amazon. She hasn't sold very many but it didn't cost her anything either. We have been working together for the last 10 years since we found out that her father and my husband were DNA matches. We have been on lots of trips to Court Houses and where the Vances have lived. We think Abner was born in Augusta Co, Va near James River and Natural Bridge. Sorry this is so long. Write and tell me a little about you. I can help with whatever you want. I will enter your information in my tree on your Vance line. Thanks for the reply. Janice (and Tom) Thanks for your email. I have a hard time following messages on ancestry. I wrote this last night on my phone and couldn't send it. I did look at your family tree and some of the names. Barbara wrote Two Sides to Every Story which I believe you have read. You have so much information on you family tree. Don't know how you have done it. It does take years.
From: Janice/Tom Vance [mailto:vancetj@zoomnet.net]
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2016 8:16 AM
To: wetzupdoc@me.com
Subject: Vances

Sent from my iPad
On Dec 30, 2016, at 7:42 PM, Janice/Tom Vance > wrote:
It must be your new site since you used JD's book.

Wilburn Lee is not the same one as the one with Carl. JD started his book several years ago and didn't know all the information that has been discovered the last 2 months.

James Lee, Jr (uncle Jimmy) had his DNA done and came up with a match to my husband and the other Vances in the same group. Cousin Barbara Vance Cherep and I contacted him and helped him solve the mystery of who his grandparents are.

Wilburn Lee Vance is the son of Meek and Laura France Vance and was born in Mingo Co, WV in 1906.
He is listed as Wilburn in the 1910 Census and Lee in the 1920 Census.
He died in March 1929 in Hamilton, OH before James Lee Vance, Sr was born.
Uncle Jimmy lives in TX and he came to Ky and Oh to meet his new found kin the first of December. Cousin Barbara, my husband and I met him, his sister, Lori and JD in Washington CH, Oh.

Abner had two brothers that we know of. They are John and Matthew. They were in NC, SC and TN.
Their father was Matthew Vance that married Anne Jones in Philly in 1746. We have lots of records.

Which child of Abners do you descend from. My husband comes down through Abner, Jr and daughter Mary that married Janes Brown. Barbara Vance Cherep comes down through Abners brother, John.

Where do you live. I am in Point Pleasant, WV.

Cousin Barbara has written a book "Historical Recordings of Matthew Vance and Descendants". She only had 130 printed but is going to do more when she gets it up dated.

She also wrote "The Feuding Truth" about Jim M Vance and Family. Also "Tug River People of Appalachia", this one is abstracts of Pike and Logan Court Records. The last two books are on Amazon. She hasn't sold very many but it didn't cost her anything either. We have been working together for the last 10 years since we found out that her father and my husband were DNA matches. We have been on lots of trips to Court Houses and where the Vances have lived.

We think Abner was born in Augusta Co, Va near James River and Natural Bridge.

Sorry this is so long. Write and tell me a little about you. I can help with whatever you want. I will enter your information in my tree on your Vance line. Thanks for the reply. Janice (and Tom)

Thanks for your email. I have a hard time following messages on ancestry. I wrote this last night on my phone and couldn't send it. I did look at your family tree and some of the names.
Barbara wrote Two Sides to Every Story which I believe you have read.
You have so much information on you family tree. Don't know how you have done it. It does take years.
[S958] Ancestry Family Trees, (Name: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com. Original data: Family Tree files submitted by Ancestry members.;), database online. James Lee Vance consol 20210706GHLn- ... (30).
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[S854] Ancestry.com, U.S., Find A Grave Index, 1700s-Current, (Name: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc.; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2012;), James Lee Vance.
Record for James Lee Vance (12) facts
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James Lee Vance
Birth: Sep. 22, 1929
Breathitt County, Kentucky, USA
Death: Oct. 16, 1997
Middletown, Butler County, Ohio, USA

Son of [Carl] Lee Vance (1906-1929) and Goldie Taulbee (later Blackmon).
Married Bonnie Blanton.

Family links:
Parents: Goldie M. Taulbee Blackmon (1912 - 1993)
Spouse: Bonnie Eloise Blanton Vance (1933 - 2005)

Note: Probably buried in Hounshell Family Cemetery with his wife Bonnie, but this must be verified.
His Ohio death record states "Burial out of state".

Burial: Unknown

Created by: HWA
Record added: Sep 14, 2016
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[S2109] J.D. Vance, Hillbilly Elegy: A Memoir of a Family and Culture in Crisis, (Date: 28 June 2016;), *pp. 24/25/26 of 234, iBook:.
Bonnie Elis "Mamaw" Blanton (6) facts

Jams Lee "Papaw" Vance, Sr. (5) facts ....... (7)

Donald R. Bowman (15) facts .................... (17)

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Jim Vance and Bonnie Blanton Vance and Papaw's distant cousin- also (Bad) Jim Vance Papaw- James Lee Vance, born 1929, middle name a tribute to his father, Lee Vance

Jams Lee "Papaw" Vance, Sr. (5) facts
Jim Vance and Bonnie Blanton Vance and Papaw's distant cousin- also (Bad) Jim Vance Papaw- James Lee Vance, born 1929, middle name a tribute to his father, Lee Vance

hmmmmm...
At least one living or private individual is linked to this item - Details withheld.
[S2408] Ancestry.com, Ohio, Divorce Abstracts, 1962-1963, 1967-1971, 1973-2007, (Name: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc; Location: Provo, UT; Date: 2010;), Ohio Department of Health; Columbus, OH, USA; Ohio Divorce Index, 1962-1963, 1967-1971 and 1973-2007.
Record for James L Vance (8) facts
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James L Vance in the Ohio, U.S., Divorce Abstracts, 1962-1963, 1967-1971, 1973-2007
Ohio, U.S., Divorce Abstracts, 1962-1963, 1967-1971, 1973-2007
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Name James L Vance
Decree 19 May 1981
Butler, Ohio, USA
Res Middletown, Butler
Grounds Gross Neglect/Extreme Cruelty
granted Wife
Marriage 33 years
Minor Children 0
Spouse Bonnie Vance
Cert 17635
Volume 4567
[S2109] J.D. Vance, Hillbilly Elegy: A Memoir of a Family and Culture in Crisis, (Date: 28 June 2016;), chapter three pp 37,38, 39, 41, 42, 43.
p.37- Mamaw and Papaw had three kids (10) facts

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p.37- Mamaw and Papaw had three kids- Jimmy, Bev (my mom) and Lori. Jimmy was born in 1951, when Mamaw and Papaw were integrating into their lives. They wanted more children, so the tried and tried, through a heartbreaking period of terrible luck and numerous miscarriages. Mamaw carried the emotional scars of nine lost children for her entire life. Mom was born on January 20, 1961-- the day of John F. Kennedy's inauguration-- and my aunt Lori came along less than two years later. For whatever reason, Mamaw and Papaw stopped there.
p.38- Whatever unity they possessed early in their marriage bagan to evaporate after their daughter, Lori-- whom I call Aunt Wee-- was born in 1962.
p.39- Before Mamaw was married, her brothers had been willing to murder boys who disrespected their sister. Now that she was married to a man whom many of them considered more a brother than an outsider, they tolerated behavior that would have gotten Papaw killed in the holler. "Mom's brothers would come up and want to go carousing with Dad," Uncle Jimmy explained... Uncle Pet was always the leader.
p. 41- It's not obvious to anyone why Mamaw and Papaw's marriage fell apart. Perhaps Papaw's alcoholism got the best of him. Uncle Jimmy suspects that he eventually "ran around" on Mamaw. Or maybe Mamaw just cracked-- with three living kids, one dead one, and a host of miscarriages in between, who could have blamed her?
p.42- All three children were profoundly affected by their tumultuous home life. Lori struggled in school, mostly because she never attended class.
p.43 The next year, at sixteen, Lori dropped out of high school and married. She immediately found herself trapped in an abusive home just like the one she'd tried to escape. Her new husband would lock her in a bedroom to keep her from seeing her family. "It was almost like a prison," Aunt Wee later told me. Unfortunately the statistics caught up with the Vance family, and BEV (my mom) didn't fare so well. Like her siblings, she left home early. She was a promising student, but when she got pregnant at eighteen, she decided college had to wait. After high school, she married her boyfriend and tried to settle down. But settling down wasn't quite her thing: She had learned the lessons of her childhood all too well. When her new life developed the same fighting and drama so present in her old one, Mom filed for divorce and began life as a single mother. She was nineteen, with no degree, no husband, and a little girl- my sister, Lindsay.

pp 37,38, 39, 41, 42, 43

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