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- [S394] Ancestry.com, Public Member Trees, (Name: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc.; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2006;), Database online., Skinner/Schinzel-Ahlemeyer/Haines Tree J_Ahlemeyer.
Record for James Bad Jim Vance Elizabeth's story Elizabeth was daughter of Abner and Susannah (Howard) Vance. Her father was hanged for murder. He was in an altercation with the Lewis brothers over the sexual advances one had made toward his daughter -- likely Elizabeth. The brothers provoked him into shooting and his shot killed one of them although it was intended for the other. He was sentenced to hang and after three trials the execution day was set. He wrote a song about what happened which is now recognized as the oldest piece of folk music existing. (See story attached to his data) On the day of the execution, Abner address the crowd of nearly 4000 for an hour and a half, saying that life imprisonment was a more fitting punishment. The governor's pardon arrived after he was dead. Elizabeth never married. She was sister to Nancy Vance, the mother of Devil Anse Hatfield. Her own son, James, cousin to Devil Anse became known as Bad Jim Vance. Hans Friedrichadded this on 11 Apr 2011 RoChaVaoriginally submitted this to Vance Family Tree on 25 Feb 2009
Elizabeth's story
Elizabeth was daughter of Abner and Susannah (Howard) Vance. Her father was hanged for murder. He was in an altercation with the Lewis brothers over the sexual advances one had made toward his daughter -- likely Elizabeth. The brothers provoked him into shooting and his shot killed one of them although it was intended for the other. He was sentenced to hang and after three trials the execution day was set. He wrote a song about what happened which is now recognized as the oldest piece of folk music existing. (See story attached to his data) On the day of the execution, Abner address the crowd of nearly 4000 for an hour and a half, saying that life imprisonment was a more fitting punishment. The governor's pardon arrived after he was dead.
Elizabeth never married. She was sister to Nancy Vance, the mother of Devil Anse Hatfield. Her own son, James, cousin to Devil Anse became known as Bad Jim Vance.
Hans Friedrichadded this on 11 Apr 2011 RoChaVaoriginally submitted this to Vance Family Tree on 25 Feb 2009
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Bad_Jim_Vance_001[1] Hans Friedrichadded this on 11 Apr 2011 kcheyenne51originally submitted this to My Hatfield and Vance Line on 13 Feb 2011
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- [S394] Ancestry.com, Public Member Trees, (Name: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc.; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2006;), Database online. Tackett Family Tree, Owner: gkobryan1 re "Bad Jim" Vance Last viewed: Elizabeth Vance, Skinner/Schinzel-Ahlemeyer/Haines Tree J_Ahlemeyer.
Record for James "Bad Jim" Vance
James(bad jim) Vance
According to family history, james vance was killed around 1888 in the hatfield/mccoy fued. he reportedly shot two of randall mccoys daughters in the back while they were attempting to escape a burning house he reportedly set on fire. the mccoys had thier revenge on james vance.
gkobryan1added this on 18 May 2011 randyvance48originally submitted this to Vance Family Tree on 6 Mar 2007
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Elizabeth Vance, Mother of Nancy Vance Hatfield and "Bad" Jim Vance
Elizabeth Vance Notes are from: http://www.coalexchange.com/smith/mcdowella/pafg536.htm#15943
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Elizabeth Vance was born in 1794. [Parents--Abner Vance Sr was born about 1763 in NC. He died on 16 Jul 1819 in Abingdon, Russell Co,VA. He married Susannah Howard in 1779 in Russell Co,VA. Susannah Howard was born in 1767 in Russell Co,VA. She died after 1850 in Logan Co,WV. ]
She had the following children:
Fi Nancy Vance was born on 2 May 1813. She died after 1880.
Elizabeth Vance
1. "Reference Book of Wyoming County History", Mary K. Bowman, page 399.
James Brown married Millie Vance, daughter of Abner Vance, Sr.
Abner Vance, Sr. married in Russell Co, VA and settled on the Tug River near the present Logan Wyoming Co line.
His children were: James, John, Richard, Abner, Jr, Millie, Bettie and three other daughters, who married
(______), Perry, Francis Browning, and John McCloud.
Abner, Sr was hanged for killing (_______) Horton.
2. "Timothy Vance's Hompage", internet.
Elizabeth Vance, daughter of Abner and Susannah Howard Vance,"... fell in love with a man that did not have good intentions toward her. ...he ruined her reputation. Abner and Susannah tried to get the man to marry Elizabeth, but he refused. After a brief argument, Abner shot the man and killed him. He supposedly hid out in Logan Co, WV before coming back to Russell Co and turning himself in."
Elizabeth never married but had several children; one was "Bad" Jim Vance and another was Nancy Vance who married Ephriam Hatfield, the parents of "Devil Anse" Hatfield.
gkobryan1 added this on 17 May 2011
fiddlestix1224 originally submitted this to Riffe Family Tree on 8 May 2011
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gkobryan1added this on 25 Apr 2011; alicehat originally submitted this to Church, Turpin, Hatfield, Workman, Mullins Family Tree on 3 Apr 2011
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