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David Mounts--Notes from Genealogy Forum
[This is a thread on a Bryant genealogy forum. Message is from Brenda Ferrell Sampsel. Internet address is: http://www.saponitown.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-291.html ].
Brenda Ferrell Sampsel.
11-26-2003, 08:29 PM.
"...You are probably familiar with Henry Clay Ragland's HISTORY OF LOGAN COUNTY. He is not altogether reliable as most of his informants were probably the grandchildren of his subjects. However, this is what he has to say about David Mounts, my Blackfoot & Cherokee (per my late grandpa Harry Steele of Beech Creek) 4th great grandfather. By the way, Ragland hated Indians.
"The daughter of Peter Cline, Sr., whose name was Margaret, married David Mounts, a young man who came to the Tug Valley a short time after Cline had settled there. It is not known where he came from, but it is believed from the name that he is a descendant of a Portuguese family by the name of Mounts, which settled in South Carolina about 1750, and some of whom served under Sumpter in the War of the Revolution." David's children marired into the Blankenships, Steeles, Spratts, Clines, Charles, Christian & Hurley families of the Tug River Valley.
I have NEVER been able to ID David's exact Mounts family, although I have found some interesting Mounts at the edge of the early frontier. One line has legends that they are French, but I feel pretty comfortable that they are descended from an Indian Trading family that came with the New Sweden Colony and was in Cecil County MD (near Chester, PA) before moving on with the frontier. I did find a George and a Barnabus Mounts in old Ninety Six District of South Carolina no township listed about 1779. Ninety Six was a trading center and on the trading path. The other thing that strikes me about the 1750 date is that it is about the time some old traders from PA including Morgan Bryan moved to the trading ford at the forks of the Yadkin in North Carolina. The "Carolina Cradle" settled is formed by the Yadkin & Catawba. The customers/suppliers/Indians had been moving out of the Susquehanna area for some time, first to the Potomac area, and then to the Ohio lands.....wonder if they had customers/suppliers in the Yadkin? I think there was a general migration out of Virginia around 1750 or so, however, for various reasons. (Perhaps the Fairfax suits??? Opening hostilities with the French & Indian war? I'll have to check the dates.)
According to heresay, David was born in the Clinch River settlements around 1785. His PURPORTED sister , Sarah Mounts Wilson, wife of James Wilson (children married into Balls & Lamberts, I believe) who settled in the Wayne County area of WVA was reportedly born in Maryland some years earlier. They were purportedly in the TN/NC area for a short while, too. There is talk that they were in the Jackson River settlement in the Bath County, VA area for awhile, too. There were some Mounts in the Clinch river area early 1770's, but records are scanty. (John, Mathias, & Absolum. I think at least one of them might have moved over from the Otter Creek area. It looks like they may have gone on to Kentucky.)
The first real documentary evidence of MY David Mount's existence is his 1809 marriage bond in MONTGOMERY COUNTY, VA to marry Margaret Cline. A James Addair who ran a ferry over the NEW RIVER around the Radford or Narrows area signed as David's surety. Many folks say James Addair, who was in the New River area at least by 1773, was David's guardian. I am not sure about that. This James Addair was born abt. 1750 and is NOT the famous James Adair, Indian Trader and author of ADAIR'S HISTORY OF THE AMERICAN INDIANS, 1775. That Adair was in NC & SC & b. abt 1709...Descendants of this James Addair of New River have a tradition of Cherokee in this line...not sure if its James Addair or Kirby line his daughter married into. His descendants have been unable to find his parents/family of origin, as well.
When you say MONTGOMERY COUNTY, I think THE NEW RIVER AREA. Some interesting folks around there at that time, such as Richard & George Pearris(spelled various ways) & Hugh Caperton. All heavily involved in the Indian Trade. Richard Pearris brought the Cherokee on the Sandy Creek expedition, worked early in the Winchester area, & then was seated in South Carolina, I believe.... He had an Indian family and was given land down there by the Cherokee.
Supposedly David & Peggy Mounts went to the Tug area as soon as they were married, but the first record I pick up is a FLOYD COUNTY KENTUCKY land grant in 1821. Very soon after that, David's land records start showing up in old Cabell & then LOGAN COUNTY VIRGINIA. This is probably just across the river. His land appears to be along the river....and finally on our BEECH CREEK of Tug River.
Up the river a ways in Wayne County in the late 1890's Sarah Mounts Wilson's grandson's, Hiram & Jackson Wilson, petitioned the Cherokee Nation for membership naming Sarah's Cherokee relations as 'Old John Mounts, Woodall, & Raincrow." While the petitions were discovered in the Wayne County Courthouse, no other record or disposition of the Wilson brothers' Cherokee claims has been found.
Not many records for Logan County prior to 1850 or so. I have been watching Mounts/Mountz/Mounce folks on the frontier for awhile and I have yet to get any solid evidence of David Mounts family of origin. Many researchers have been combing around for orphan's bonds, etc. with no luck. Just lots of stories so far....
I did find an AOFP in 1790 census of Cecil County, Maryland by the name of Alexander Mounts. Alexander is a common name among David's descendants. This was in Octoraro Hundreds and he was surrounded by a host of AOFP. I don't know what Octoraro Creek was like in 1790, but early on it was a site for the old Susquehanna Fort & then in the early 1700's the site reputedly of a Shawnee village. By the mid 1800's I have been told that it was heavily populated by blacks. I lose this Alexander after 1790. An Alexander posp up in Fleming County KY about 10 years later.
Yes, your pattern does look familliar to me!!!!".
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Margaret "Peggy" Cline and David Mounts--Notes
[These notes are from coalexchange.com at: http://www.coalexchange.com/smith/mcdowella/pafg539.htm#15765]
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David Mounts was born about 1785 in Sc. He died about 1879 in WV. He married Margaret "Peggy" Cline on 5 Apr 1899 (1809?- jcw 03.10.2013) in Montgomery Co,VA. .
Margaret "Peggy" Cline [Parents] was born in 1794 in VA. She married David Mounts on 5 Apr 1899 (1809?- jcw 03.10.2013) in Montgomery Co,VA. .
They had the following children: .
Mi Elijah Mounts
Mii Charles Mounts
Fiii Nancy Mounts
Miv Peter Mounts
Fv Elizabeth Mounts
Fvi Sarah "Sally" Mounts
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David Mounts.
1. "Reference Book of Wyoming Co, WV...", Bowman, page 441.
Peter Cline, Sr. lived on the Kentucky side of Tug River in 1794 at the mouth of Peter Creek. In 1802 he moved to the West Virginia side of the river.
The name of his wife is not known.
His known sons were:
Michael (married Tazzie Hinkle),
Jacob (married ______ Fuller, in KY),
William (married_______Weddington of KY) and
Peter, Jr married a daughter of ThomasSmith, of Horsepen.
Daughter Margaret married David Mounts of SC.
2. "Wyoming County Heritage", WGS, Page 11.
Peter Cline, Sr, the original settler of Peter Creek in Pike Co, KY, from which it took its name was a German immigrant. He entered this country as a young man at the port of Philadelphia, PA on 7 Oct 1787.
He fought in the Revolutionary War with the VA Continental Line with a unit in Dunmore County. He migrated to western NC, with one son born there, then on to TN and back to VA.
He had 5 sons and a daughter:
Jacob, born in 1788 in VA;
Michael, born in 1790 in NC;
William, born in VA in 1791;
Peter, Jr, and
finally Margaret, born in 1794 in VA.
Margaret "Peggy" Cline married David Mounts; children were:
Charlie, bornin 1811, married Mary Ann Spratt, daughter of Isaac Spratt;
Michael, born in 1812, married, (______) Cline, daughter of Peter Harper Cline;
Elizabeth, married Alexander Trent, son of Humphrey Trent;
Sarah, married Daniel Christian;
William, born in 1819, married Mary Blankenship;
Peter, born in 1821, married Nancy Cline, daughter of William;
Alexander, born in 1826, married Margaret Charles;
Nancy, born in 1820, married Asbury Hurley and
Martha, born in 1815, married John Steel.
3. 1850 Census, Logan Co, VA (WV), taken 29 Aug 1850, page 144A, Family #365.
Listed as David Mounts, age 65, born in VA, farmer, head of household.
4. Ancestry.com Web Site, Henderson Mounts search, 15 Jan 2002, submitted by Doc Watson, docwatson-@yahoo.com.
David Mounts; born 1785 in VA or SC; died abt 1870 at Sand Siding, WV;
married Margaret "Peggy" Cline on 5 Apr 1809 in Montgomery Co, VA..
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Margaret "Peggy" Cline.
1. "Reference Book of Wyoming Co, WV...", Bowman, page 441.
Peter Cline, Sr. lived on the Kentucky side of Tug River in 1794 at the mouth of Peter Creek. In 1802 he moved to the West Virginia side of the river.
The name of his wife is not known.
His known sons were:
Michael (married Tazzie Hinkle),
Jacob (married ______ Fuller, in KY),
William (married_______Weddington of KY) and
Peter, Jr married a daughter of Thomas Smith, of Horsepen.
Daughter Margaret married David Mounts of SC.
2. 1880 Census, Logan Co, WV, Complied by William A. March, Vol 11, page 655. Magnolia District, page 011.
Listed as Margaret Mounts, age 98, in household of Silkirk McCoy.
3. "Wyoming County Heritage", WGS, Page 11.
Peter Cline, Sr, the original settler of Peter Creek in Pike Co, KY, from which it took its name was a German immigrant. He entered this country as a young man at the port of Philadelphia, PA on 7 Oct 1787.
He fought in the Revolutionary War with the VA Continental Line with a unit in Dunmore County. He migrated to western NC, with one son born there, then on to TN and back to VA.
He had 5 sons and a daughter:
Jacob, born in 1788 in VA;
Michael, born in 1790 in NC;
William, born in VA in 1791;
Peter, Jr, and
finally Margaret, born in 1794 in VA.
Margaret "Peggy" Cline married David Mounts; children were:
Charlie, born in 1811, married Mary Ann Spratt, daughter of Isaac Spratt;
Michael, born in 1812, married, (______) Cline, daughter of Peter Harper Cline;
Elizabeth, married Alexander Trent, son of Humphrey Trent;
Sarah, married Daniel Christian;
William, born in 1819, married Mary Blankenship;
Peter, born in 1821, married Nancy Cline, daughter of William;
Alexander, born in 1826, married Margaret Charles;
Nancy, born in 1820, married Asbury Hurley and
Martha, born in 1815, married John Steel.
3. 1850 Census, Logan Co, VA (WV), taken 29 Aug 1850, page 144A, Family #365.
Listed as Peggy Mounts, age 56, born in VA, in household of husband, David Mounts.
4. 1870 Census, Logan Co, WV, Logan Co, WV, Magnolia District, Rich Creek PO, Page 537A, Family #8.
Listed as Margaret Mounts, age 80, born in VA, in household of son Jackson Mountd..
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