| Name |
Bradt, Andries Arentse [1] |
- death in indian attack, 1690, Schenectady
THE FOLLOWING ARE THE NAMES OF THOSE KILLED AND TAKEN CAPTIVE ON THAT NIGHT. In addition to the soldiers in the fort, those recorded as being killed in the massacre were:
Myndert Wemp,
Jan Dirkse Van Eps and three children,
Barent Janse Van Ditmars and his son, Cornelis,
Andries Arentse Bradt and one child,
Maria Viele (wife of Douw Aukes),two children,
Mary Aloff (wife of Cornelis Viele, Jr.)
Sweer Teunises Van Velsen, his wife,
Antje Janse Spoor,
Hendrick Meese Vrooman,
Bartholomew Vrooman (father and brother of Adam),
Gerrit Marcellis, wife and child,
Robert Hesselingh,
Sander Van Brakel,
Jan Roeloffse,
David Christoffalse, his wife and four children,
Joris Aertse Van der Bast,
Willem Pieterse,
Jan Poetman and wife,
Domine Thessenmaecker,
Frans Harmense Van de Bogart,
Engeltje Vrooman and infant child,
Rynier Shaets and son,
Johannes son of Symon Schermerhoorn.
The following are recorded as having been taken prisoners:
Isaac Swits and son Cornelis, Johannes Teller,
John Wemp (son of Myndert Wemp above), Symon,
Abraham, Philip,
Dyrck and Claas Groot, all five sons of Symon Groot Sr .
Jan Baptist Van Eps son of Jan Dirkse Van Eps, Albert and Johannes Vedder, sons of Harmon Vedder,
Arnout Janse, Barent Vrooman, son of Adam. Claas son of Harmens Van de Bogart.
Most of the captives were returned to the valley from one to seven years captivity.
Bolded sons taken are from another branch of the family- Symon is our gr-grandfather (Jan Hutinger?-jcw 08.10.2011)
The Fate of Schenectady
In the 1600's, a young man came to America from Holland aboard the ship "Prince Mauritz" as a boatswain. His name was Symon Symonse Groot. He was the start of our Groot/Groat family. Symon married a young lady that he met while living in Fort Orange (which is now known as Albany, NY). Her name was Rebecca du Truiex, she was a pretty young maid and Symon was "taken" with her right away. At least that is what I would like to think. Rebecca's dad was the court messenger of New Amsterdam (which was NY City). They lived in Albany a short time after their marriage, and then moved to Beverwyck (today is known as Schenectady, NY, which means a place beyond the pines). They moved to an area that is now known as the "Stockade" where they owned quite a bit of land. They had 6 sons and 3 daughters. They were farmers and church going people.
The fate of Schenectady was sealed in the middle of January, 1690, when 114 Frenchmen and 96 Sault and Algonquin Indians, started from Montreal to attack English outpost to the south. It was part of the master plan to fulfill the wishes of French King Louis XIV to "build a new empire in America". They came down the frozen ice on Lake Champlain and in about six days, down to a point that is known today as Fort Edward, it was here where they met with the Indian leaders and decided to attack Schenectady instead of Fort Orange.
They continued on down and crossed the icy Mohawk. It was then that spies were sent to scout the Stockade and see if it was secured. Seeing the doors open, and no one guarding them, they reported back to their leaders, and the decision was made to attack. February 9, 1690, during the raid on Schenectady many men, women and children were killed, (which you will find a list of the names at the bottom of this page). Symon and Rebecca's 5 sons, Symon, Dyrk, Abraham, Claas and Philip (Cornelius died when just a young boy) were taken captive by the French and Indians and marched up into Canada. Symon and Rebecca were not in Schenectady at the time of the massacre, they had gone to Albany to attend a Baptism. Imagine their fright when they got the news of what had happend.
The people of Schenectady were secure in their feelings that nobody would go out on such a night like this, freezing cold and so much snow. Most had gone off to bed and were sleeping. A night like this not even the foolhardy Frenchmen would be out. Now why the gates to the fort were not closed is a question no one at this time can answer. Some say that maybe they were so sure that no one would be out they just got careless, and others say maybe the gates were frozen open and they could not be closed. Whatever the reason they were left open and what happend during the night shall always be remembered by all Schenectadians. The half-frozen invaders crossed the river on the windswept ice and soon were inside the stockade.
Suddenly the high-pitched war cries of the warriors split the silence, the signal for a bloody massacre that was to last for two full hours.
Houses were quickly put to the torch and the people who came out in the night were tomahawked and their scalps were taken or they were shot. Symon Schermerhorn though wounded mounted a horse and rode to Albany to tell them of the French invasion and to try and get some help. That morning the French rounded up their prisoners and started back to Canada. As they passed by Scotia, Glen Sander was able to help, he was told that he would be able to choose his relatives from among the prisoners in return for having been kind to some French captives when they were in the hands of the Mohawks a few years earlier. He tried to claim as many as he could without arousing their suspicions. About 60 persons were killed outright, including 10 women and 12 children. And some were taken prisoner. As mentioned above Symon and Rebecca's sons were some of those taken captive. All the sons did return to Schenectady after a years time, except Claas, and we are not sure what happened to Claas. There are many stories as to what did happen to Class but nobody knows for sure.
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This poem written by Walter Wilie on June 12, 1690. It was written 4 months after the Massacre.
CCarter50 added this on 15 Feb 2011
janhutinger originally submitted this to hutinger Family Tree on 26 Apr 2008
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| Birth |
1653 |
Schenectady, Schenectady, New York, USA [1] |
- Schenectady,Albany,New York,USA
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| Gender |
Male |
| killed by Indians |
9 Feb 1690 |
Schenectady, Schenectady, New York, USA |
| French & Indian surprise attack; killed with one of his children |
- death in indian attack, 1690, Schenectady
THE FOLLOWING ARE THE NAMES OF THOSE KILLED AND TAKEN CAPTIVE ON THAT NIGHT. In addition to the soldiers in the fort, those recorded as being killed in the massacre were:
Myndert Wemp,
Jan Dirkse Van Eps and three children,
Barent Janse Van Ditmars and his son, Cornelis,
Andries Arentse Bradt and one child,
Maria Viele (wife of Douw Aukes),two children,
Mary Aloff (wife of Cornelis Viele, Jr.)
Sweer Teunises Van Velsen, his wife,
Antje Janse Spoor,
Hendrick Meese Vrooman,
Bartholomew Vrooman (father and brother of Adam),
Gerrit Marcellis, wife and child,
Robert Hesselingh,
Sander Van Brakel,
Jan Roeloffse,
David Christoffalse, his wife and four children,
Joris Aertse Van der Bast,
Willem Pieterse,
Jan Poetman and wife,
Domine Thessenmaecker,
Frans Harmense Van de Bogart,
Engeltje Vrooman and infant child,
Rynier Shaets and son,
Johannes son of Symon Schermerhoorn.
The following are recorded as having been taken prisoners:
Isaac Swits and son Cornelis, Johannes Teller,
John Wemp (son of Myndert Wemp above), Symon,
Abraham, Philip,
Dyrck and Claas Groot, all five sons of Symon Groot Sr .
Jan Baptist Van Eps son of Jan Dirkse Van Eps, Albert and Johannes Vedder, sons of Harmon Vedder,
Arnout Janse, Barent Vrooman, son of Adam. Claas son of Harmens Van de Bogart.
Most of the captives were returned to the valley from one to seven years captivity.
Bolded sons taken are from another branch of the family- Symon is our gr-grandfather (Jan Hutinger?-jcw 08.10.2011)
The Fate of Schenectady
In the 1600's, a young man came to America from Holland aboard the ship "Prince Mauritz" as a boatswain. His name was Symon Symonse Groot. He was the start of our Groot/Groat family. Symon married a young lady that he met while living in Fort Orange (which is now known as Albany, NY). Her name was Rebecca du Truiex, she was a pretty young maid and Symon was "taken" with her right away. At least that is what I would like to think. Rebecca's dad was the court messenger of New Amsterdam (which was NY City). They lived in Albany a short time after their marriage, and then moved to Beverwyck (today is known as Schenectady, NY, which means a place beyond the pines). They moved to an area that is now known as the "Stockade" where they owned quite a bit of land. They had 6 sons and 3 daughters. They were farmers and church going people.
The fate of Schenectady was sealed in the middle of January, 1690, when 114 Frenchmen and 96 Sault and Algonquin Indians, started from Montreal to attack English outpost to the south. It was part of the master plan to fulfill the wishes of French King Louis XIV to "build a new empire in America". They came down the frozen ice on Lake Champlain and in about six days, down to a point that is known today as Fort Edward, it was here where they met with the Indian leaders and decided to attack Schenectady instead of Fort Orange.
They continued on down and crossed the icy Mohawk. It was then that spies were sent to scout the Stockade and see if it was secured. Seeing the doors open, and no one guarding them, they reported back to their leaders, and the decision was made to attack. February 9, 1690, during the raid on Schenectady many men, women and children were killed, (which you will find a list of the names at the bottom of this page). Symon and Rebecca's 5 sons, Symon, Dyrk, Abraham, Claas and Philip (Cornelius died when just a young boy) were taken captive by the French and Indians and marched up into Canada. Symon and Rebecca were not in Schenectady at the time of the massacre, they had gone to Albany to attend a Baptism. Imagine their fright when they got the news of what had happend.
The people of Schenectady were secure in their feelings that nobody would go out on such a night like this, freezing cold and so much snow. Most had gone off to bed and were sleeping. A night like this not even the foolhardy Frenchmen would be out. Now why the gates to the fort were not closed is a question no one at this time can answer. Some say that maybe they were so sure that no one would be out they just got careless, and others say maybe the gates were frozen open and they could not be closed. Whatever the reason they were left open and what happend during the night shall always be remembered by all Schenectadians. The half-frozen invaders crossed the river on the windswept ice and soon were inside the stockade.
Suddenly the high-pitched war cries of the warriors split the silence, the signal for a bloody massacre that was to last for two full hours.
Houses were quickly put to the torch and the people who came out in the night were tomahawked and their scalps were taken or they were shot. Symon Schermerhorn though wounded mounted a horse and rode to Albany to tell them of the French invasion and to try and get some help. That morning the French rounded up their prisoners and started back to Canada. As they passed by Scotia, Glen Sander was able to help, he was told that he would be able to choose his relatives from among the prisoners in return for having been kind to some French captives when they were in the hands of the Mohawks a few years earlier. He tried to claim as many as he could without arousing their suspicions. About 60 persons were killed outright, including 10 women and 12 children. And some were taken prisoner. As mentioned above Symon and Rebecca's sons were some of those taken captive. All the sons did return to Schenectady after a years time, except Claas, and we are not sure what happened to Claas. There are many stories as to what did happen to Class but nobody knows for sure.
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This poem written by Walter Wilie on June 12, 1690. It was written 4 months after the Massacre.
CCarter50 added this on 15 Feb 2011
janhutinger originally submitted this to hutinger Family Tree on 26 Apr 2008
|
| Death |
9 Feb 1690 |
Schenectady County, New York, USA [1] |
- death in indian attack, 1690, Schenectady
THE FOLLOWING ARE THE NAMES OF THOSE KILLED AND TAKEN CAPTIVE ON THAT NIGHT. In addition to the soldiers in the fort, those recorded as being killed in the massacre were:
Myndert Wemp,
Jan Dirkse Van Eps and three children,
Barent Janse Van Ditmars and his son, Cornelis,
Andries Arentse Bradt and one child,
Maria Viele (wife of Douw Aukes),two children,
Mary Aloff (wife of Cornelis Viele, Jr.)
Sweer Teunises Van Velsen, his wife,
Antje Janse Spoor,
Hendrick Meese Vrooman,
Bartholomew Vrooman (father and brother of Adam),
Gerrit Marcellis, wife and child,
Robert Hesselingh,
Sander Van Brakel,
Jan Roeloffse,
David Christoffalse, his wife and four children,
Joris Aertse Van der Bast,
Willem Pieterse,
Jan Poetman and wife,
Domine Thessenmaecker,
Frans Harmense Van de Bogart,
Engeltje Vrooman and infant child,
Rynier Shaets and son,
Johannes son of Symon Schermerhoorn.
The following are recorded as having been taken prisoners:
Isaac Swits and son Cornelis, Johannes Teller,
John Wemp (son of Myndert Wemp above), Symon,
Abraham, Philip,
Dyrck and Claas Groot, all five sons of Symon Groot Sr .
Jan Baptist Van Eps son of Jan Dirkse Van Eps, Albert and Johannes Vedder, sons of Harmon Vedder,
Arnout Janse, Barent Vrooman, son of Adam. Claas son of Harmens Van de Bogart.
Most of the captives were returned to the valley from one to seven years captivity.
Bolded sons taken are from another branch of the family- Symon is our gr-grandfather (Jan Hutinger?-jcw 08.10.2011)
The Fate of Schenectady
In the 1600's, a young man came to America from Holland aboard the ship "Prince Mauritz" as a boatswain. His name was Symon Symonse Groot. He was the start of our Groot/Groat family. Symon married a young lady that he met while living in Fort Orange (which is now known as Albany, NY). Her name was Rebecca du Truiex, she was a pretty young maid and Symon was "taken" with her right away. At least that is what I would like to think. Rebecca's dad was the court messenger of New Amsterdam (which was NY City). They lived in Albany a short time after their marriage, and then moved to Beverwyck (today is known as Schenectady, NY, which means a place beyond the pines). They moved to an area that is now known as the "Stockade" where they owned quite a bit of land. They had 6 sons and 3 daughters. They were farmers and church going people.
The fate of Schenectady was sealed in the middle of January, 1690, when 114 Frenchmen and 96 Sault and Algonquin Indians, started from Montreal to attack English outpost to the south. It was part of the master plan to fulfill the wishes of French King Louis XIV to "build a new empire in America". They came down the frozen ice on Lake Champlain and in about six days, down to a point that is known today as Fort Edward, it was here where they met with the Indian leaders and decided to attack Schenectady instead of Fort Orange.
They continued on down and crossed the icy Mohawk. It was then that spies were sent to scout the Stockade and see if it was secured. Seeing the doors open, and no one guarding them, they reported back to their leaders, and the decision was made to attack. February 9, 1690, during the raid on Schenectady many men, women and children were killed, (which you will find a list of the names at the bottom of this page). Symon and Rebecca's 5 sons, Symon, Dyrk, Abraham, Claas and Philip (Cornelius died when just a young boy) were taken captive by the French and Indians and marched up into Canada. Symon and Rebecca were not in Schenectady at the time of the massacre, they had gone to Albany to attend a Baptism. Imagine their fright when they got the news of what had happend.
The people of Schenectady were secure in their feelings that nobody would go out on such a night like this, freezing cold and so much snow. Most had gone off to bed and were sleeping. A night like this not even the foolhardy Frenchmen would be out. Now why the gates to the fort were not closed is a question no one at this time can answer. Some say that maybe they were so sure that no one would be out they just got careless, and others say maybe the gates were frozen open and they could not be closed. Whatever the reason they were left open and what happend during the night shall always be remembered by all Schenectadians. The half-frozen invaders crossed the river on the windswept ice and soon were inside the stockade.
Suddenly the high-pitched war cries of the warriors split the silence, the signal for a bloody massacre that was to last for two full hours.
Houses were quickly put to the torch and the people who came out in the night were tomahawked and their scalps were taken or they were shot. Symon Schermerhorn though wounded mounted a horse and rode to Albany to tell them of the French invasion and to try and get some help. That morning the French rounded up their prisoners and started back to Canada. As they passed by Scotia, Glen Sander was able to help, he was told that he would be able to choose his relatives from among the prisoners in return for having been kind to some French captives when they were in the hands of the Mohawks a few years earlier. He tried to claim as many as he could without arousing their suspicions. About 60 persons were killed outright, including 10 women and 12 children. And some were taken prisoner. As mentioned above Symon and Rebecca's sons were some of those taken captive. All the sons did return to Schenectady after a years time, except Claas, and we are not sure what happened to Claas. There are many stories as to what did happen to Class but nobody knows for sure.
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This poem written by Walter Wilie on June 12, 1690. It was written 4 months after the Massacre.
CCarter50 added this on 15 Feb 2011
janhutinger originally submitted this to hutinger Family Tree on 26 Apr 2008
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| Person ID |
I5746 |
WETZEL-SPRING |
| Family |
VanSlyck, Margareta, b. 1665, Schenectady, Schenectady, New York, USA d. 1733, Schenectady, Schenectady, New York, USA (Age 68 years) |
| Marriage |
1678 |
Albany, Albany, New York, USA [1] |
- U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900 about Andries Bradt
Name: Andries Bradt
Gender: Male
Birth Year: 1653
Spouse Name: Margarita Van Slyck
Marriage Year: 1678
Number Pages: 1
Source Citation: Source number: 849.000; Source type: Electronic Database; Number of Pages: 1; Submitter Code: JBW.
Source Information: Yates Publishing. U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900 [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2004.
Original data: This unique collection of records was extracted from a variety of sources including family group sheets and electronic databases. Originally, the information was derived from an array of materials including pedigree charts, family history articles, querie.
Description: This database contains marriage record information for approximately 1,400,000 individuals from across all 50 United States and 32 different countries around the world between 1560 and 1900. These records, which include information on over 500 years of marriages, were extracted from family group sheets, electronic databases, biographies, wills, and other sources.
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| Children |
| | 1. Bradt, Maria, b. 1684, Schenectady County, New York, USA [Father: natural] [Mother: natural] |
| | 2. Bradt, Bathsheba, b. 1688, Schenectady County, New York, USA [Father: natural] [Mother: natural] |
| | 3. Bradt, Margarita, b. 1686, Schenectady County, New York, USA [Father: natural] [Mother: natural] |
| | 4. Vedder, Lydia, b. 1704, Schenectady County, New York, USA d. 1737 (Age 33 years) [Father: natural] [Mother: natural] |
| | 5. Bratt, Arent, b. 1680, Schenectady, Schenectady, New York, USA d. 1767, Schenectady, Schenectady, New York, USA (Age 87 years) [Father: natural] [Mother: natural] |
| | 6. Vedder, Johannis Harmense d. 27 Jun 1763, Albany, New York, USA [Father: natural] [Mother: natural] |
| | 7. Vedder, Helena [Father: natural] [Mother: natural] |
| | 8. Vedder, Sophia Fytie d. 1762 [Father: natural] [Mother: natural] |
| | 9. Vedder, Jacobus d. 1762 [Father: natural] [Mother: natural] |
| | 10. Vedder, Angienta [Father: natural] [Mother: natural] |
| | 11. Vedder, Margariet [Father: natural] [Mother: natural] |
| | 12. Vedder, Harmen Harmense d. 27 Jun 1763, Albany, New York, USA [Father: natural] [Mother: natural] |
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| Family ID |
F1640 |
Group Sheet | Family Chart |