Zimmerman, J. Frederick

• Name	Zimmerman, J. Frederick  [1, 2]
  	20180130 RVA- ancestry Notes- Clara Kern Sue Kern Lane Jan 28, 2018 Clara Zimmerman Kern was married to Elmer Kern. Both are buried in Knowlton Cem, Gaines, Tioga County. Her father's name was J. Frederick Zimmerman and mother was Susannah McCracken. Her date of birth was 26 April 1888 and death was 14 Aug 1977. Elmer Kern was the father to Raymond who married Eleanor Smith. William James Kern born 2-15-10 is my father. I have that same picture. _________________ 20180130- Clars Zimmerman in the Pennsylvania, Marriages, 1852-1968 certificate: 5954 Name: Clars Zimmerman Gender: Female Age: 24 Birth Date: abt 1888 her occupation: teacher Marriage Date: 21 May 1912 Marriage Place: Wellsboro, Tioga, Pennsylvania, USA Father: J. F. Zimmerman Mother: Susanna Zimmerman Spouse: Elmer Kern Film Number: 001287359 Name: Elmer Kern Gender: Male Age: 22 Birth Date: abt 1890 his occupation: farmer Marriage Date: 21 May 1912 Marriage Place: Wellsboro, Tioga, Pennsylvania, USA Father: Henry Kern Mother: Imogene Kern Spouse: Clars Zimmerman residence, both: Gaines, PA Film Number: 001287359 Source Information Ancestry.com. Pennsylvania, Marriages, 1852-1968 [database on-line]. Lehi, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2016. Original data: Marriage Records. Pennsylvania Marriages. Various County Register of Wills Offices, Pennsylvania.
  Gender	Male
  Person ID	I50705	WETZEL-SPRING

  
  

  Family	McCracken, Susannah Barbara,   b. 21 Jan 1849, Liberty, Jackson, Tioga, Pennsylvania, USA d. 20 Dec 1924, Watrous, Gaines, Tioga, Pennsylvania, USA (Age 75 years)
  Children	1. Zimmerman, Clara,   b. 26 Apr 1888, Tioga County, Pennsylvania, USA d. 14 Aug 1977, Gaines, Tioga, Pennsylvania, USA (Age 89 years)  [Father: natural]  [Mother: natural]   2. Zimmerman, Gertie,   b. Sep 1890, Pennsylvania, USA  [Father: natural]  [Mother: natural]   3. Zimmerman, Sarah,   b. 1884, Pennsylvania, USA  [Father: natural]  [Mother: natural]   4. Zimmerman, Verna,   b. Sep 1885, Pennsylvania, USA  [Father: natural]  [Mother: natural]   5. Zimmerman, Katie,   b. Jul 1883, Pennsylvania, USA  [Father: natural]  [Mother: natural]
  Family ID	F36399	Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  
  

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  Pennsylvania, Marriages 19120521- Zimmerman Kern, Elmer_Clara.jpg 20180130- Clars Zimmerman in the Pennsylvania, Marriages, 1852-1968 certificate: 5954 Name: Clars Zimmerman Gender: Female Age: 24 Birth Date: abt 1888 her occupation: teacher Marriage Date: 21 May 1912 Marriage Place: Wellsboro, Tioga, Pennsylvania, USA Father: J. F. Zimmerman Mother: Susanna Zimmerman Spouse: Elmer Kern Film…

  
  

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  [S1130] ancestry.com in-mail:, Sue Kern Lane, re Clara Kern 20180130. 20180130 RVA- ancestry Notes- Clara Kern 20180130 RVA- ancestry.com Clara Kern wetzupdoc1 Jan 31, 2018 Sue, Here's a quick summary of your DNA connections with my kids, in case you're interested: Sue Kern Lane Christy - Sue Kern Lane is on Christy's DNA match list Relationship: 4th - 6th cousins Confidence: Good George Adam - Sue Kern Lane is on George Adam's DNA match list Relationship: 5th - 8th cousins Confidence: Good Mark - Sue Kern Lane is on Mark's DNA match list Relationship: 4th - 6th cousins Confidence: Good john wetzupdoc1 Jan 31, 2018 Sue, Actually, the way you stated it, Karl would have been (and was) Robert's grandfather. Robert's middle name was his mother's maiden name, Mosch (as often happens), Karl was her father, Robert's grandfather. I haven't gotten to the Mattisons yet, to know who is father-in-law was, but it was Gladys's father. I remember those cabins, driving Rte 6 to Mansfield and environs! Thanks for your email address; mine is wetzupdoc@me.com. john Sue Kern Lane Jan 31, 2018 Robert Mosch Kern 1/11/1886 was my grandfather. Someone had stated on the info of a photo of Robert Mosch Kern that his grandfather was Karl Mosch. Not true. Karl Mosch is the father to Lena Mosch Kern. Karl would have been Robert M. Kern's father-in-law. My father was William James Kern 2/15/10 who married Esther Lloyd daughter of Harry and Ora VanAken Lloyd. My grandfather Harry Lloyd had a huge farm on Route 6 between Galeton and Gaines and he built Lloyd's Tourist Cabins on Route 6. I grew up in the Galeton/Gaines area. I am just starting out (about 1 1/2 weeks) with this ancestry so I have tons to learn. I've had lots of info but now just need to get it all together. Thanks for your notes. If it would easier my email address is: sklane@udel.edu wetzupdoc1 Jan 30, 2018 Barbara Mosch, who is your third cousin, is the mother of my three children, so the relationships here are important to the family tree I am consumed with. I am very interested in relationships (like inter-relationships) within Potter County in a larger sense, as well, looking at some surprising DNA-based connections that touch some lives in curious ways. Interesting that Imogene Moore Kern was only 15 years old when she married 24 year old Henry, jr; her mother was not listed on the marriage certificate. Elmer was born 3 months later. Would you mind sharing your Robert Mosch Kern corrections, in case I have some of the incorrect info in my tree? Would you tell me the maiden name of your mother? And thank you for helping me straighten this out. Sue Kern Lane Jan 31, 2018 Robert Mosch Kern 1/11/1886 was my grandfather. Someone had stated on the info of a photo of Robert Mosch Kern that his grandfather was Karl Mosch. Not true. Karl Mosch is the father to Lena Mosch Kern. Karl would have been Robert M. Kern's father-in-law. My father was William James Kern 2/15/10 who married Esther Lloyd daughter of Harry and Ora VanAken Lloyd. My grandfather Harry Lloyd had a huge farm on Route 6 between Galeton and Gaines and he built Lloyd's Tourist Cabins on Route 6. I grew up in the Galeton/Gaines area. I am just starting out (about 1 1/2 weeks) with this ancestry so I have tons to learn. I've had lots of info but now just need to get it all together. Thanks for your notes. If it would easier my email address is: sklane@udel.edu wetzupdoc1 Jan 30, 2018 Barbara Mosch, who is your third cousin, is the mother of my three children, so the relationships here are important to the family tree I am consumed with. I am very interested in relationships (like inter-relationships) within Potter County in a larger sense, as well, looking at some surprising DNA-based connections that touch some lives in curious ways. Interesting that Imogene Moore Kern was only 15 years old when she married 24 year old Henry, jr; her mother was not listed on the marriage certificate. Elmer was born 3 months later. Would you mind sharing your Robert Mosch Kern corrections, in case I have some of the incorrect info in my tree? Would you tell me the maiden name of your mother? And thank you for helping me straighten this out. Sue Kern Lane Jan 30, 2018 May I ask why you have pictures of my family as in Walter and Lena Kern when the DNA shows no relationship ? Sue Kern Lane Jan 30, 2018 Yes William was my Father and Robert Mosch Kern was my grandfather. Raymond belongs to Elmer. I went to that web site on f/b and asked to become a member. I did see the pictures and yes I have those same photos. I also found one of Robert Mosch Kern with some wrong information and wrote my information to them also. I have the photo but it's at least 90 years old so I don't believe that there will be any better resolutions. Thanks for your replies. Sue Kern Lane Jan 30, 2018 I was trying to let you know who Clara was. Henry Valentine Kern & Wilhelmina Reinwald married & had William who married Lena Mosch who gave birth to Robert Mosch Kern and Henry who married Imogene Moore and had Elmer who married Clara. wetzupdoc1 Jan 30, 2018 OK, I think I have a problem; maybe that's what you're referring to. Is it a conflict or just more supporting information? It is not clear from your note- Who are William's parents, your grandparents? And Raymond? Sorry to be so obtuse! john wetzupdoc1 Jan 30, 2018 Ah! I think I found it. The photo I'd gotten from a FaceBook post by - Gary Miller? Mosch-Kortz Family Descendants 4 hrs · 20160618 Lena Mosch Kern, William Kern, Clara Kern (left to right) CommentShare 1John Christy Wetzel Comments Paul Lynn Gardner Paul Lynn Gardner William kern (born 1910) was the son of Robert Kern and Gladys Mattison. William would be Lena's grandson. Who is Clara Kern? Like · Reply · 4 hrs This William is your father, got it! Thanks. Please let me know if this is not the photo to which you refer. Also if you have a better resolution copy, I'd love to have it, although this one isn't bad. john wetzupdoc1 Jan 30, 2018 Hi, Sue! I can't find the photo you're referring to. And I seem to have lost reference to anybody in your note. I've lost a lot of data over the years with program crashes, reconstructing Trees, breaking them down into usable segments, etc. and I've done a lot of Tree-merging. I've got Walter and Robert Kern, following the Mosch line, but I'm really curious about the family you're talking about. I really appreciate your note! john wetzel Sue Kern Lane Jan 28, 2018 Clara Zimmerman Kern was married to Elmer Kern. Both are buried in Knowlton Cem, Gaines, Tioga County. Her father's name was J. Frederick Zimmerman and mother was Susannah McCracken. Her date of birth was 26 April 1888 and death was 14 Aug 1977. Elmer Kern was the father to Raymond who married Eleanor Smith. William James Kern born 2-15-10 is my father. I have that same picture. [S1134] Ancestry.com, Pennsylvania, Marriages, 1852-1968, (Name: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc.; Location: Lehi, UT, USA; Date: 2016;), Zimmerman Kern, Elmer & Clara. Record for Clars Zimmerman 20180130- Clars Zimmerman in the Pennsylvania, Marriages, 1852-1968 certificate: 5954 Name: Clars Zimmerman Gender: Female Age: 24 Birth Date: abt 1888 her occupation: teacher Marriage Date: 21 May 1912 Marriage Place: Wellsboro, Tioga, Pennsylvania, USA Father: J. F. Zimmerman Mother: Susanna Zimmerman Spouse: Elmer Kern Film Number: 001287359 Name: Elmer Kern Gender: Male Age: 22 Birth Date: abt 1890 his occupation: farmer Marriage Date: 21 May 1912 Marriage Place: Wellsboro, Tioga, Pennsylvania, USA Father: Henry Kern Mother: Imogene Kern Spouse: Clars Zimmerman residence, both: Gaines, PA Film Number: 001287359 Source Information Ancestry.com. Pennsylvania, Marriages, 1852-1968 [database on-line]. Lehi, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2016. Original data: Marriage Records. Pennsylvania Marriages. Various County Register of Wills Offices, Pennsylvania. Pennsylvania, Marriages 19120521- Zimmerman Kern, Elmer_Clara.jpg 20180130- Clars Zimmerman in the Pennsylvania, Marriages, 1852-1968 certificate: 5954 Name: Clars Zimmerman Gender: Female Age: 24 Birth Date: abt 1888 her occupation: teacher Marriage Date: 21 May 1912 Marriage Place: Wellsboro, Tioga, Pennsylvania, USA Father: J. F. Zimmerman Mother: Susanna Zimmerman Spouse: Elmer Kern Film…

  
  

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