Herdman, John

1904 - 1945  (40 years)

• Name	Herdman, John
  Birth	4 Jun 1904	Washington, USA   [1, 2, 3, 4]
  	Social Security Death Index about John Herdman Name: John Herdman SSN: 535-03-8973 Born: 4 Jun 1904 Died: Mar 1945 State (Year) SSN issued: Washington (Before 1951) Source Citation: Number: 535-03-8973;Issue State: Washington;Issue Date: Before 1951. Source Information: Ancestry.com. Social Security Death Index [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2010. Original data: Social Security Administration. Social Security Death Index, Master File. Social Security Administration. Description: The Social Security Administration Death His docs show both locations./Washington State & NY!
  Gender	Male
  Birth	1906	Washington, USA   [5]
  Social Security Number	Washington, USA   [1]
  	535-03-8973
  	Social Security Death Index about John Herdman Name: John Herdman SSN: 535-03-8973 Born: 4 Jun 1904 Died: Mar 1945 State (Year) SSN issued: Washington (Before 1951) Source Citation: Number: 535-03-8973;Issue State: Washington;Issue Date: Before 1951. Source Information: Ancestry.com. Social Security Death Index [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2010. Original data: Social Security Administration. Social Security Death Index, Master File. Social Security Administration. Description: The Social Security Administration Death
  Death	Mar 1945	West Almond, Allegany, New York, USA   [1, 2, 3]
  	Social Security Death Index about John Herdman Name: John Herdman SSN: 535-03-8973 Born: 4 Jun 1904 Died: Mar 1945 State (Year) SSN issued: Washington (Before 1951) Source Citation: Number: 535-03-8973;Issue State: Washington;Issue Date: Before 1951. Source Information: Ancestry.com. Social Security Death Index [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2010. Original data: Social Security Administration. Social Security Death Index, Master File. Social Security Administration. Description: The Social Security Administration Death This can't be referring to the John Herdman, "dirty John" of my college days, and living with mother Ethel, whom I met in 1968= jcw wrong Herdman
  Person ID	I49166	WETZEL-SPRING

  
  

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  Birth - 4 Jun 1904 - Washington, USA Birth - 1906 - Washington, USA Social Security Number - 535-03-8973 - - Washington, USA Death - Mar 1945 - West Almond, Allegany, New York, USA  = Link to Google Earth

  
  

• Notes

  20171213 RVA- I separated this john herdman, who grew up in Washington state, from Dirty John. Clearly different individuals.

  
  

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  [S386] Ancestry.com, Social Security Death Index, (Name: Ancestry.com Operations Inc; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2010;), Database online. Number: 535-03-8973; Issue State: Washington; Issue Date: Before 1951. John Herdman. Record for John Herdman 20171213 RVA- reference removed from 'Dirty John', clearly not him. Social Security Death Index about John Herdman Name: John Herdman SSN: 535-03-8973 Born: 4 Jun 1904 Died: Mar 1945 State (Year) SSN issued: Washington (Before 1951) 20171213 RVA- reference removed from 'Dirty John', clearly not him. Source Citation: Number: 535-03-8973;Issue State: Washington;Issue Date: Before 1951. Source Information: Ancestry.com. Social Security Death Index [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2010. Original data: Social Security Administration. Social Security Death Index, Master File. Social Security Administration. Description: The Social Security Administration Death [S394] Ancestry.com, Public Member Trees, (Name: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc.; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2006;), Database online. TYNESs, Owner: KatTynes Last viewed: Nancy Laura Regina Durnion, Skinner/Schinzel-Ahlemeyer/Haines Tree J_Ahlemeyer. Record for Nancy Laura Regina Durnion [S1720] Public Member Trees, N/A, Kate (Carpenter) Sprague's Bloodline, Owner: mrsejs Record for Nancy Laura Regina DurnionN/A 20240115GHLn-. Record for Nancy Laura Regina Durnion N/A 20240115GHLn- [S1084] census 1930 USA NY Allegany, Year: 1930; Census Place: West Almond, Allegany, New York; Roll: 1406; Page: 4B; Enumeration District: 43; Image: 554.0. on same census page as Edward Herdman family; John and Nancy Durnion later marry. Record for John F Durnion (60) facts 20240629GHLn- edited on same census page as Edward Herdman family; John and Nancy Durnion later marry 20240629GHLn- edited 20191016Pawley's Island- Edward Herdman in the 1930 United States Federal Census date: 15-16 April 1930 Merle Simmons Name: Edward Herdman Birth: ca 1867 NY Gender: Male Race: White status: Married Relation Head Home: West Almond, Allegany, NY Dwelling: 91 Family : 92 Home: Owned Radio: No Farm: Yes Age 1st m: 35 Attended School: No Read and Write: Yes Father's Birth: New York Mother's Birth: New York Speak English: Yes Occupation: Farmer Class of Worker: Working on own account Employment: Yes Household Edward Herdman 63 Head NY NY NY M35 farmer Ethel Herdman 52 wife NY NY NY M24 John Herdman 24 son NY NY NY M23 laborer, farm Nancy Herdman 17 d-law Can Can Can M16 1921 AL Amy Herdman 22 dau WA NY NY S teacher, public school Jennie Herdman 18 dau NY NY NY S teacher, public school John F Durnion 57 Ire Ire Ire imm 1885mar @ 18 farmer Annie Durnion 44 Can Can Can imm 1919 mar @ 16 William J Durnion 27 Can Ire Can imm 1919 laborer Harry P Durnion 25 Can Ire Can imm 1919 mechanic auto Ethel A Durnion 14 Can Ire Can Cambrai H Durnion 11 Can Ire Can Mabel Durnion 8 MI Ire Can Norman Durnion 6 MI Ire Can Margerett Durnion 4 MI Ire Can Stanley Durnion 3 MI Ire Can Source Citation Year: 1930; Census Place: West Almond, Allegany, New York; Page: 4B; Enumeration District: 0043; FHL microfilm: 2341141 Name Family Members Home in 1930 (City,County,State) name Birth yr/place Relation Edward Herdman Ethel Herdman West Almond, Allegany, NY abt 1867 New York Head Ethel Herdman Edward Herdman West Almond, Allegany, NY abt 1878 Wife John Herdman Edward Herdman, Ethel Herdman West Almond, Allegany, NY abt 1906 Son Nancy Herdman West Almond, Allegany, NY abt 1913 Daughter-in-law Amy Herdman Edward Herdman, Ethel Herdman West Almond, Allegany, NY abt 1908 Daughter Jennie Herdman Edward Herdman, Ethel Herdman West Almond, Allegany, NY abt 1912 Daughter Claude Patterson Belle Patterson West Almond, Allegany, NY abt 1882 New York Head Belle Patterson Claude Patterson West Almond, Allegany, NY abt 1886 Wife Stewart Patterson Claude Patterson, Belle Patterson West Almond, Allegany, NY abt 1911 Son Gerald Patterson Claude Patterson, Belle Patterson West Almond, Allegany, NY abt 1917 Son Robert Patterson Claude Patterson, Belle Patterson West Almond, Allegany, NY abt 1919 Son Margorie Patterson Claude Patterson, Belle Patterson West Almond, Allegany, NY abt 1925 Daughter Isabelle Corker West Almond, Allegany, NY abt 1877 New York Servant Joseph Shafer Tillie Shafer West Almond, Allegany, NY abt 1863 New York Head Tillie Shafer Joseph Shafer West Almond, Allegany, NY abt 1883 Wife Albert Shafer Joseph Shafer, Tillie Shafer West Almond, Allegany, NY abt 1909 Son Hattie Shafer Joseph Shafer, Tillie Shafer West Almond, Allegany, NY abt 1911 Daughter Margeret Shafer Joseph Shafer, Tillie Shafer West Almond, Allegany, NY abt 1913 Daughter Joseph Shafer Joseph Shafer, Tillie Shafer West Almond, Allegany, NY abt 1916 Son Grace Shafer Joseph Shafer, Tillie Shafer West Almond, Allegany, NY abt 1919 Daughter Source Information Ancestry.com. 1930 United States Federal Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2002. Original data: United States of America, Bureau of the Census. Fifteenth Census of the United States, 1930. Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 1930. T626, 2,667 rolls. census 1930 NY Allegany West Almond Herdman,Edward 20240629GHLn- edited 20191016Pawley's Island- Edward Herdman in the 1930 United States Federal Census date: 15-16 April 1930 Merle Simmons Name: Edward Herdman Birth: ca 1867 NY Gender: Male Race: White status: Married Relation Head Home: West Almond, Allegany, NY Dwelling: 91 Family : 92 Home: Owned Radio: No Farm: Yes Age 1st m: 35 Attended… [S478] census 1920 USA NY, Year: 1920; Census Place: West Almond, Allegany, New York; Roll: T625_1085; Page: 2A; Enumeration District: 197; Image: 203.Edward Herdman family (Ethel Spring, "Dirty John") Dineen family (of John's wife??). http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=1920usfedcen&h=30980915&indiv=try&o_iid=012085&o_lid=012085&o_it=012085&offerid=0%3a7582%3a0 Name: John S Herdman Age: 14 years Estimated birth year: abt 1906 Birthplace: Washington Race: White Home in 1920: West Almond, Allegany, New York Sex: Male Marital status: Single Relation to Head of House: Son Able to read: Yes Able to Write: Yes Mother's Birth Place: New York Father's Birth Place: New York Image: 201 1920 United States Federal Census about John S Herdman Name: John S Herdman Home in 1920: West Almond, Allegany, New York Age: 14 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1906 Birthplace: Washington Relation to Head of House: Son Father's Name: Edward Herdman Father's Birth Place: New York Mother's Name: Ethel Herdman Mother's Birth Place: New York Marital Status: Single Race: White Sex: Male Able to read: Yes Able to Write: Yes Neighbors: View others on page Name Age Edward Herdman 53 NY Eng Eng farmer Ethel Herdman 43 NY Eng Eng John S Herdman 14 WA NY NY (Washington State) Amy I Herdman 12 WA NY NY (Washington State) Jennie E Herdman 8 NY NY NY John F Durnion 57 Ire Ire Ire imm 1885mar @ 18 farmer Annie Durnion 44 Can Can Can imm 1919 mar @ 16 William J Durnion 27 Can Ire Can imm 1919 laborer Harry P Durnion 25 Can Ire Can imm 1919 mechanic auto Ethel A Durnion 14 Can Ire Can Cambrai H Durnion 11 Can Ire Can Mabel Durnion 8 MI Ire Can Norman Durnion 6 MI Ire Can Margerett Durnion 4 MI Ire Can Stanley Durnion 3 MI Ire Can Source Citation: Year: 1920; Census Place: West Almond, Allegany, New York; Roll: T625_1085; Page: 2A; Enumeration District: 197; Image: 203. Source Information: Ancestry.com. 1920 United States Federal Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2010. Images reproduced by FamilySearch. Original data: Fourteenth Census of the United States, 1920. (NARA microfilm publication T625, 2076 rolls). Records of the Bureau of the Census, Record Group 29. National Archives, Washington, D.C. For details on the contents of the film numbers, visit the following NARA web page: NARA. Note: Enumeration Districts 819-839 are on roll 323 (Chicago City). page: 1920 United States Federal Census Charles O Gayhart Elwin T, Stella M West Almond, Allegany, New York abt 1913 New York White Son Clara B Gayhart Elwin T, Stella M West Almond, Allegany, New York abt 1915 New York White Daughter Ray Arnold Alia J West Almond, Allegany, New York abt 1871 New York White Self (Head) Alia J Arnold Ray West Almond, Allegany, New York abt 1874 New York White Wife Edward W George Helen L West Almond, Allegany, New York abt 1886 New York White Self (Head) Helen L George Edward W West Almond, Allegany, New York abt 1892 New York White Wife Norman E George Edward W, Helen L West Almond, Allegany, New York abt 1911 New York White Son Elizabeth M George Edward W, Helen L West Almond, Allegany, New York abt 1912 New York White Daughter Gertrude W George Edward W, Helen L West Almond, Allegany, New York abt 1913 New York White Daughter Genevieve M George Edward W, Helen L West Almond, Allegany, New York abt 1915 New York White Daughter Madeline T George Edward W, Helen L West Almond, Allegany, New York abt 1917 New York White Daughter Henry N George Edward W, Helen L West Almond, Allegany, New York abt 1918 New York White Son Mary J George Edward W, Helen L West Almond, Allegany, New York abt 1920 New York White Daughter Edward Herdman Ethel West Almond, Allegany, New York abt 1867 New York White Self (Head) Ethel Herdman Edward West Almond, Allegany, New York abt 1877 New York White Wife John S Herdman Edward, Ethel West Almond, Allegany, New York abt 1906 Washington White Son Amy I Herdman Edward, Ethel West Almond, Allegany, New York abt 1908 Washington White Daughter Jennie E Herdman Edward, Ethel West Almond, Allegany, New York abt 1912 New York White Daughter Augustus Dineen Mary E West Almond, Allegany, New York abt 1867 New York White Self (Head) Mary E Dineen Augustus West Almond, Allegany, New York abt 1871 New York White Wife Mary E Dineen West Almond, Allegany, New York abt 1908 New York White Foster Daughter Jacob N Almeter Mary West Almond, Allegany, New York abt 1883 New York White Self (Head) Mary Almeter Jacob N West Almond, Allegany, New York abt 1882 New York White Wife Delores A Almeter Jacob N, Mary West Almond, Allegany, New York abt 1909 New York White Daughter Norman N Almeter Jacob N, Mary West Almond, Allegany, New York abt 1911 New York White Son Charles A Almeter Jacob N, Mary West Almond, Allegany, New York abt 1912 New York White Son Cecelia M Almeter Jacob N, Mary West Almond, Allegany, New York abt 1914 New York White Daughter Maynard E Almeter Jacob N, Mary West Almond, Allegany, New York abt 1915 New York White Son Catherine J Almeter Jacob N, Mary West Almond, Allegany, New York abt 1916 New York White Daughter Paul J Almeter Jacob N, Mary West Almond, Allegany, New York abt 1918 New York White Son Vincent Almeter Jacob N, Mary West Almond, Allegany, New York abt 1920 New York White Son Edward A Harry West Almond, Allegany, New York abt 1855 New York White Employee George Steamberg West Almond, Allegany, New York abt 1855 New York White Self (Head) Charles W Preston Sarah J West Almond, Allegany, New York abt 1869 Pennsylvania White Self (Head) Sarah J Preston Charles W West Almond, Allegany, New York abt 1873 New York White Wife Arthur Norton Elizabeth West Almond, Allegany, New York abt 1885 New York White Self (Head) Elizabeth Norton West Almond, Allegany, New York abt 1852 New York White Mother Chester Page West Almond, Allegany, New York abt 1855 Pennsylvania White Employee Roger Allen West Almond, Allegany, New York abt 1869 New York White Self (Head) Juletta T Adams West Almond, Allegany, New York abt 1840 New York White Tenant Nora C Adams West Almond, Allegany, New York abt 1880 New York White Tenant Richard A Burdick West Almond, Allegany, New York abt 1914 New York White Ward Edward Miller Alice B West Almond, Allegany, New York abt 1877 New York White Self (Head) Alice B Miller Edward West Almond, Allegany, New York abt 1878 New York White Wife Milo M Miller West Almond, Allegany, New York abt 1868 New York White Brother Charles F Potter West Almond, Allegany, New York abt 1857 New York White Self (Head) Frank Kelly Ella V West Almond, Allegany, New York abt 1883 New York White Self (Head) Ella V Kelly Frank West Almond, Allegany, New York abt 1887 New York White Wife Francis C Kelly Frank, Ella V West Almond, Allegany, New York abt 1906 New York White Son Mary C Kelly Frank, Ella V West Almond, Allegany, New York abt 1908 New York White Daughter 1930 United States Federal Census about John F Durnion Name: John F Durnion Home in 1930: West Almond, Allegany, New York Age: 57 Estimated Birth Year: 1873 Birthplace: Ireland Relation to Head of House: Head Spouse's Name: Annie Durnion Race: White Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age John F Durnion 57 Ire Ire Ire imm 1885mar @ 18 farmer Annie Durnion 44 Can Can Can imm 1919 mar @ 16 William J Durnion 27 Can Ire Can imm 1919 laborer Harry P Durnion 25 Can Ire Can imm 1919 mechanic auto Ethel A Durnion 14 Can Ire Can Cambrai H Durnion 11 Can Ire Can Mabel Durnion 8 MI Ire Can Norman Durnion 6 MI Ire Can Margerett Durnion 4 MI Ire Can Stanley Durnion 3 MI Ire Can Source Citation: Year: 1930; Census Place: West Almond, Allegany, New York; Roll: 1406; Page: 4B; Enumeration District: 43; Image: 554.0. Source Information: Ancestry.com. 1930 United States Federal Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2002. Original data: United States of America, Bureau of the Census. Fifteenth Census of the United States, 1930. Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 1930. T626, 2,667 rolls. Description: Containing records for approximately 123 million Americans, the 1930 United States Federal Census is the largest census released to date and is the most recent census available for public access. The census gives us a glimpse into the lives of Americans in 1930, and contains information about a household’s family members and occupants including: birthplaces, occupations, immigration, citizenship, and military service. The names of those listed in the census are linked to actual images of the 1930 Census. Learn more census 1920 USA NY Allegany WAlmond Herdman, Dineen(?) 20180222 Kenya- re-organized, re-pasted from other reference; consolidated- 1920 United States Federal Census about John S Herdman Name: John S Herdman Home in 1920: West Almond, Allegany, New York Age: 14 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1906 Birthplace: Washington Relation to Head of House: Son Father's Name: Edward Herdman Father's Birth…

  
  

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