| Name |
Vance, Elias |
| Birth |
1832 |
Logan County, West Virginia, USA |
| Gender |
Male |
| Civil War |
Logan County, West Virginia, USA |
| CSA George's father, John P. Vance was a member of a family of five sons. John P. and Elias Vance were Union soldiers; three other brothers, Joe, Charles and Harold Vance, fought with the confederacy. When the war ended, only one brother from each side had survived -- John P. and Joe. |
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Newspaper:
"County's Loyalty Split on Issues of Civil War."
picture caption: This picture of John P. Vance in the uniform of the Union Army was made from an old photograph printed on glass which is owned by his son, W.P. Vance.
One of the tragedies of the Civil War in border states such as west Virginia -- or in this section of the Old Dominion which later became West Virginia -- the fact that members of one family were often divided, some supporting the Union cause and the others sympathizing with the South.
George Vance, who operates the Logan De____ Co on the Holden Road, described this situation in the Vance family which settled on Elk Creek in the years preceding the war. His father, John P. Vance was a member of a family of five sons. John P. and Elias Vance were Union soldiers; three other brothers, Joe, Charles and Harold Vance, fought with the confederacy.
When the war ended, only one brother from each side had survived -- John P. and Joe.
George Vance, whose recolleections come primarily from stories his father has told him, does not remember all the factors which caused the split in sympathies in his family. But it seems that marriage was one cause of the faction. Joe and Charles both married into families whose sympathy lay with the South. Joe -- Colonel Loe, as he was called in later years-- married into the Christian family which held some slaves and had brought the southern line of thought from Virginia.
John P., feeling that the Union should be preserved, declared his allegiance to the federal cause.
In general, Vance says, the county was divided along political lines. Chapmanville and Logan districts were traditionally Democratic while the Triadelphia Diestrict, he says, was consistently Republican until New Deal days.
Although many of the details concernint the part Logan soldiers played in tactics and strategy have now become obscure, there are many stories tod concerning incidents in which Logan men were involved.
One of these, which George Vance heard from his father, shows the humor of a rather grim incident which occurred near what is now Amherstdale.
John P. Vance and Madison White, another of a family of first settlers in this county, were walking through the woods when they were spotted by a group of about 25 Confederate soldiers. They were without arms, so they took to the hills.
However, White had on a new pair of shoes and was unable to climb, so he took cover behind a large poplar log. He probably felt the end was near when a group of his pursuers came up and sat on the log. But they failed to discover him and being unaware of his presence, they discussed freely some of their battle plans.
Another war yarn which George Vance likes, is about "the ghost of Woody's bottom." According to his account, a remnant of the famed Logan Wildcat company captured a man by the name of Woody, who was suspected of being a Union sympathizer. When he appeared sick and it seemed that he would be unable to accompany them, the story goes, they shot him.
The place was for years afterward known as Woody's Bottom and many residents ofthat area in later years reported seeing "Woody's Ghost" appear hovering near the spot where the old man was shot.
Vance says his father participated in the Battle of Bull Run and the Battle of Gettysburg. He remained in the army until the end of the war.
After the conflict, in the Vance family at any rate, family hostilities which might have been engendered during the fighting were forgotten -- except at election time.
John P., his son says, was always a loyal Republican party stalwart and Colonel Joe, his brother, always remained a staunch Democrat. The two for a number of years opposed each other in the race for justice of the peace of Triadelphia District and John P. with the Republican strength which was in the district at that time invariably won.
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Vance, Civil War- newspaper, Loyalty Split, John P & Colonel Joe edited 20240421GHLn-
Newspaper:
"County's Loyalty Split on Issues of Civil War."
picture caption: This picture of John P. Vance in the uniform of the Union Army was made from an old photograph printed on glass which is owned by his son, W.P. Vance.
One of the tragedies of the Civil War in border states such as west Virginia -- or in this… |
| Name |
"Blackburn" |
| Name |
Eli Vance [1] |
| Death |
Bef Apr 1865 |
- edited 20240421GHLn-
Newspaper:
"County's Loyalty Split on Issues of Civil War."
picture caption: This picture of John P. Vance in the uniform of the Union Army was made from an old photograph printed on glass which is owned by his son, W.P. Vance.
One of the tragedies of the Civil War in border states such as west Virginia -- or in this section of the Old Dominion which later became West Virginia -- the fact that members of one family were often divided, some supporting the Union cause and the others sympathizing with the South.
George Vance, who operates the Logan De____ Co on the Holden Road, described this situation in the Vance family which settled on Elk Creek in the years preceding the war. His father, John P. Vance was a member of a family of five sons. John P. and Elias Vance were Union soldiers; three other brothers, Joe, Charles and Harold Vance, fought with the confederacy.
When the war ended, only one brother from each side had survived -- John P. and Joe.
George Vance, whose recolleections come primarily from stories his father has told him, does not remember all the factors which caused the split in sympathies in his family. But it seems that marriage was one cause of the faction. Joe and Charles both married into families whose sympathy lay with the South. Joe -- Colonel Loe, as he was called in later years-- married into the Christian family which held some slaves and had brought the southern line of thought from Virginia.
John P., feeling that the Union should be preserved, declared his allegiance to the federal cause.
In general, Vance says, the county was divided along political lines. Chapmanville and Logan districts were traditionally Democratic while the Triadelphia Diestrict, he says, was consistently Republican until New Deal days.
Although many of the details concernint the part Logan soldiers played in tactics and strategy have now become obscure, there are many stories tod concerning incidents in which Logan men were involved.
One of these, which George Vance heard from his father, shows the humor of a rather grim incident which occurred near what is now Amherstdale.
John P. Vance and Madison White, another of a family of first settlers in this county, were walking through the woods when they were spotted by a group of about 25 Confederate soldiers. They were without arms, so they took to the hills.
However, White had on a new pair of shoes and was unable to climb, so he took cover behind a large poplar log. He probably felt the end was near when a group of his pursuers came up and sat on the log. But they failed to discover him and being unaware of his presence, they discussed freely some of their battle plans.
Another war yarn which George Vance likes, is about "the ghost of Woody's bottom." According to his account, a remnant of the famed Logan Wildcat company captured a man by the name of Woody, who was suspected of being a Union sympathizer. When he appeared sick and it seemed that he would be unable to accompany them, the story goes, they shot him.
The place was for years afterward known as Woody's Bottom and many residents ofthat area in later years reported seeing "Woody's Ghost" appear hovering near the spot where the old man was shot.
Vance says his father participated in the Battle of Bull Run and the Battle of Gettysburg. He remained in the army until the end of the war.
After the conflict, in the Vance family at any rate, family hostilities which might have been engendered during the fighting were forgotten -- except at election time.
John P., his son says, was always a loyal Republican party stalwart and Colonel Joe, his brother, always remained a staunch Democrat. The two for a number of years opposed each other in the race for justice of the peace of Triadelphia District and John P. with the Republican strength which was in the district at that time invariably won.
- When the war ended, only one brother from each side had survived -- John P. and Joe
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| Person ID |
I41344 |
WETZEL-SPRING |