Vance, James Monroe

1832 - 1888  (56 years)

• Name	Vance, James Monroe
  Birth	1832	Logan County, West Virginia, USA   [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]
  	"Logan, Virginia"
  Gender	Male
  Civil War	Virginia, USA
  	CSA Co B, 34th Virginia Cavalry
  	20240415GHLn- findagrave added by Terry Vance SERG JAMES M. VANCE Co. B 34 VA Cav CSA 1832 Jan 8 1888
  Residence	1860	Pike County, Kentucky, USA   [3, 5]
  	District 1, Pike, Kentucky, United States
  Residence	1880	Magnolia, Mingo, West Virginia, USA   [3, 5]
  	Magnolia, Logan, West Virginia,/"a hamlet" Magnolia, West Virginia per Wikipedia, not "Mingo" or "Logan" counties, as often designated in references
  feud	Between 1881 and 1888  [3]
  	Devil Anse's uncle, "Bad Jim" Vance is probably the one who killed Harmon McCoy for fighting for the Union, a Bad Jim reportedly shot two of randall mccoys daughters in the back while they were attempting to escape a burning house he supposedly torched.
  	James(bad jim) Vance According to family history james vance was killed around 1888 in the hatfield/mccoy fued. he reportedly shot two of randall mccoys daughters in the back while they were attempting to escape a burning house he supposedly torched. The mccoys had thier revenge on james vance. gkobryan1added this on 18 May 2011 randyvance48originally submitted this to Vance Family Tree on 6 Mar 2007 Devil Anse's uncle (our 4th great uncle), "Bad Jim" Vance, it is believed, is the one who killed Harmon McCoy, while he was hiding out in a cave, for fighting for the Union in the Civil War. This is considered the first event in the feud, which simmered until the 'hog incident.' Bad Jim reportedly shot Randall McCoy's daughters in the back while they were attempting to escape a burning house he supposedly torched.
  Name	Bad Jim
  Name	James "Bad Jim" Vance  [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6]
  Name	James Vance  [7, 8]
  Death	8 Jan 1888	Logan County, West Virginia, USA   [2, 4, 5, 6]
  	James(bad jim) Vance According to family history james vance was killed around 1888 in the hatfield/mccoy fued. he reportedly shot two of randall mccoys daughters in the back while they were attempting to escape a burning house he reportedly set on fire. the mccoys had thier revenge on james vance. gkobryan1added this on 18 May 2011 randyvance48originally submitted this to Vance Family Tree on 6 Mar 2007 "Logan, Virginia"; killed by Frank Phillips after raid on McCoy cabin?
  Burial	Aft 8 Jan 1888	Thacker, Mingo, West Virginia, USA
  	James Vance Family Cemetery
  Person ID	I41167	WETZEL-SPRING

  
  

  Father	Rev, John B. FERRELL,   b. 1793, Pike County, Kentucky, USA d. 7 Jun 1891, Kent, England (Age 98 years)
  Relationship	natural
  Mother	VANCE, Elizabeth,   b. 1794, Russell County, Virginia, USA d. 7 Apr 1873, Logan County, West Virginia, USA (Age 79 years)
  Relationship	natural
  Issue, jt	some, perhaps all, of Elizabeth Vance’s children were fathered by John Ferrell. John Ferrell was an early settler in the Tug Valley (his family was closely connected with the Hatfield family). He owned a mill near the current town of Matewan,
  	20241214GHLn- WikiTree- We know one more fact about Betty Vance that makes her involvement in the Horton affair unlikely. DNA research on the part of various Vance descendants, coupled with local knowledge passed down through the families, has shown conclusively that some, perhaps all, of Elizabeth Vance’s children were fathered by John Ferrell. John Ferrell was an early settler in the Tug Valley (his family was closely connected with the Hatfield family). He owned a mill near the current town of Matewan, West Virginia, and it was he, not her father Abner, who apparently bought (or helped buy) land for Elizabeth and their children on the Kentucky side of the river (we’ve seen copies of the deeds). So it was John Ferrell who brought Elizabeth and her children to the Tug Valley, who set them up on land just up the river from his own home, and who continued to take care of her, as far as we can tell, until his death.
  partner	(Elizabeth never married)  [5]
  	Elizabeth's story Elizabeth was daughter of Abner and Susannah (Howard) Vance. Her father was hanged for murder. He was in an altercation with the Lewis brothers over the sexual advances one had made toward his daughter -- likely Elizabeth. The brothers provoked him into shooting and his shot killed one of them although it was intended for the other. He was sentenced to hang and after three trials the execution day was set. He wrote a song about what happened which is now recognized as the oldest piece of folk music existing. (See story attached to his data) On the day of the execution, Abner address the crowd of nearly 4000 for an hour and a half, saying that life imprisonment was a more fitting punishment. The governor's pardon arrived after he was dead. Elizabeth never married. She was sister to Nancy Vance, the mother of Devil Anse Hatfield. Her own son, James, cousin to Devil Anse became known as Bad Jim Vance. gkobryan1added this on 27 Apr 2011 RoChaVaoriginally submitted this to Vance Family Tree on 25 Feb 2009 John Ferrell and Elizabeth Vance Never married. Cthomas0761added this on 14 Sep 2011 gkobryan1originally submitted this to Tackett/York Family Tree on 18 May 2011 _______________________ Elizabeth Vance, Mother of Nancy Vance Hatfield and "Bad" Jim Vance Notes from coalexchange.com Elizabeth Vance Notes are from: http://www.coalexchange.com/smith/mcdowella/pafg536.htm#15943 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Elizabeth Vance was born in 1794. [Parents--Abner Vance Sr was born about 1763 in NC. He died on 16 Jul 1819 in Abingdon, Russell Co,VA. He married Susannah Howard in 1779 in Russell Co,VA. Susannah Howard was born in 1767 in Russell Co,VA. She died after 1850 in Logan Co,WV. ] [Notes--see below] She had the following children: Fi Nancy Vance was born on 2 May 1813. She died after 1880. Notes: Elizabeth Vance 1. "Reference Book of Wyoming County History", Mary K. Bowman, page 399. James Brown married Millie Vance, daughter of Abner Vance, Sr. Abner Vance, Sr. married in Russell Co, VA and settled on the Tug River near the present Logan Wyoming Co line. His children were: James, John, Richard, Abner, Jr, Millie, Bettie and three other daughters who married (______) Perry, Francis Browning, and John McCloud. Abner, Sr was hanged for killing (Lewis) Horton. 2. "Timothy Vance's Hompage", internet. Elizabeth Vance, daughter of Abner and Susannah Howard Vance,"... fell in love with a man that did not have good intentions toward her. ...he ruined her reputation. Abner and Susannah tried to get the man to marry Elizabeth, but he refused. After a brief argument, Abner shot the man and killed him. He supposedly hid out in Logan Co, WV before coming back to Russell Co and turning himself in." Elizabeth never married but had several children; one was "Bad" Jim Vance and another was Nancy Vance who married Ephriam Hatfield, the parents of "Devil Anse" Hatfield. dsliszewskiadded this on 24 Nov 2012 fiddlestix2007originally submitted this to Riffe Family Tree on 8 May 2011 John Ferrell and Elizabeth Vance Never married. Cthomas0761added this on 14 Sep 2011 gkobryan1originally submitted this to Tackett/York Family Tree on 18 May 2011 _______________________ Elizabeth Vance, Mother of Nancy Vance Hatfield and "Bad" Jim Vance Notes from coalexchange.com Elizabeth Vance Notes are from: http://www.coalexchange.com/smith/mcdowella/pafg536.htm#15943 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Elizabeth Vance was born in 1794. [Parents--Abner Vance Sr was born about 1763 in NC. He died on 16 Jul 1819 in Abingdon, Russell Co,VA. He married Susannah Howard in 1779 in Russell Co,VA. Susannah Howard was born in 1767 in Russell Co,VA. She died after 1850 in Logan Co,WV. ] [Notes--see below] She had the following children: Fi Nancy Vance was born on 2 May 1813. She died after 1880. Notes: Elizabeth Vance 1. "Reference Book of Wyoming County History", Mary K. Bowman, page 399. James Brown married Millie Vance, daughter of Abner Vance, Sr. Abner Vance, Sr. married in Russell Co, VA and settled on the Tug River near the present Logan Wyoming Co line. His children were: James, John, Richard, Abner, Jr, Millie, Bettie and three other daughters who married (______) Perry, Francis Browning, and John McCloud. Abner, Sr was hanged for killing (Lewis) Horton. 2. "Timothy Vance's Hompage", internet. Elizabeth Vance, daughter of Abner and Susannah Howard Vance,"... fell in love with a man that did not have good intentions toward her. ...he ruined her reputation. Abner and Susannah tried to get the man to marry Elizabeth, but he refused. After a brief argument, Abner shot the man and killed him. He supposedly hid out in Logan Co, WV before coming back to Russell Co and turning himself in." Elizabeth never married but had several children; one was "Bad" Jim Vance and another was Nancy Vance who married Ephriam Hatfield, the parents of "Devil Anse" Hatfield. dsliszewskiadded this on 24 Nov 2012 fiddlestix2007originally submitted this to Riffe Family Tree on 8 May 2011 John Ferrell and Elizabeth Vance Never married. Cthomas0761added this on 14 Sep 2011 gkobryan1originally submitted this to Tackett/York Family Tree on 18 May 2011 _______________________ Elizabeth Vance, Mother of Nancy Vance Hatfield and "Bad" Jim Vance Notes from coalexchange.com Elizabeth Vance Notes are from: http://www.coalexchange.com/smith/mcdowella/pafg536.htm#15943 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Elizabeth Vance was born in 1794. [Parents--Abner Vance Sr was born about 1763 in NC. He died on 16 Jul 1819 in Abingdon, Russell Co,VA. He married Susannah Howard in 1779 in Russell Co,VA. Susannah Howard was born in 1767 in Russell Co,VA. She died after 1850 in Logan Co,WV. ] [Notes--see below] She had the following children: Fi Nancy Vance was born on 2 May 1813. She died after 1880. Notes: Elizabeth Vance 1. "Reference Book of Wyoming County History", Mary K. Bowman, page 399. James Brown married Millie Vance, daughter of Abner Vance, Sr. Abner Vance, Sr. married in Russell Co, VA and settled on the Tug River near the present Logan Wyoming Co line. His children were: James, John, Richard, Abner, Jr, Millie, Bettie and three other daughters who married (______) Perry, Francis Browning, and John McCloud. Abner, Sr was hanged for killing (Lewis) Horton. 2. "Timothy Vance's Hompage", internet. Elizabeth Vance, daughter of Abner and Susannah Howard Vance,"... fell in love with a man that did not have good intentions toward her. ...he ruined her reputation. Abner and Susannah tried to get the man to marry Elizabeth, but he refused. After a brief argument, Abner shot the man and killed him. He supposedly hid out in Logan Co, WV before coming back to Russell Co and turning himself in." Elizabeth never married but had several children; one was "Bad" Jim Vance and another was Nancy Vance who married Ephriam Hatfield, the parents of "Devil Anse" Hatfield. dsliszewskiadded this on 24 Nov 2012 fiddlestix2007originally submitted this to Riffe Family Tree on 8 May 2011 John Ferrell and Elizabeth Vance Never married. Cthomas0761added this on 14 Sep 2011 gkobryan1originally submitted this to Tackett/York Family Tree on 18 May 2011 _______________________ Elizabeth Vance, Mother of Nancy Vance Hatfield and "Bad" Jim Vance Notes from coalexchange.com Elizabeth Vance Notes are from: http://www.coalexchange.com/smith/mcdowella/pafg536.htm#15943 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Elizabeth Vance was born in 1794. [Parents--Abner Vance Sr was born about 1763 in NC. He died on 16 Jul 1819 in Abingdon, Russell Co,VA. He married Susannah Howard in 1779 in Russell Co,VA. Susannah Howard was born in 1767 in Russell Co,VA. She died after 1850 in Logan Co,WV. ] [Notes--see below] She had the following children: Fi Nancy Vance was born on 2 May 1813. She died after 1880. Notes: Elizabeth Vance 1. "Reference Book of Wyoming County History", Mary K. Bowman, page 399. James Brown married Millie Vance, daughter of Abner Vance, Sr. Abner Vance, Sr. married in Russell Co, VA and settled on the Tug River near the present Logan Wyoming Co line. His children were: James, John, Richard, Abner, Jr, Millie, Bettie and three other daughters who married (______) Perry, Francis Browning, and John McCloud. Abner, Sr was hanged for killing (Lewis) Horton. 2. "Timothy Vance's Hompage", internet. Elizabeth Vance, daughter of Abner and Susannah Howard Vance,"... fell in love with a man that did not have good intentions toward her. ...he ruined her reputation. Abner and Susannah tried to get the man to marry Elizabeth, but he refused. After a brief argument, Abner shot the man and killed him. He supposedly hid out in Logan Co, WV before coming back to Russell Co and turning himself in." Elizabeth never married but had several children; one was "Bad" Jim Vance and another was Nancy Vance who married Ephriam Hatfield, the parents of "Devil Anse" Hatfield. dsliszewskiadded this on 24 Nov 2012 fiddlestix2007originally submitted this to Riffe Family Tree on 8 May 2011 John Ferrell and Elizabeth Vance Never married. Cthomas0761added this on 14 Sep 2011 gkobryan1originally submitted this to Tackett/York Family Tree on 18 May 2011 _______________________ Elizabeth Vance, Mother of Nancy Vance Hatfield and "Bad" Jim Vance Notes from coalexchange.com Elizabeth Vance Notes are from: http://www.coalexchange.com/smith/mcdowella/pafg536.htm#15943 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Elizabeth Vance was born in 1794. [Parents--Abner Vance Sr was born about 1763 in NC. He died on 16 Jul 1819 in Abingdon, Russell Co,VA. He married Susannah Howard in 1779 in Russell Co,VA. Susannah Howard was born in 1767 in Russell Co,VA. She died after 1850 in Logan Co,WV. ] [Notes--see below] She had the following children: Fi Nancy Vance was born on 2 May 1813. She died after 1880. Notes: Elizabeth Vance 1. "Reference Book of Wyoming County History", Mary K. Bowman, page 399. James Brown married Millie Vance, daughter of Abner Vance, Sr. Abner Vance, Sr. married in Russell Co, VA and settled on the Tug River near the present Logan Wyoming Co line. His children were: James, John, Richard, Abner, Jr, Millie, Bettie and three other daughters who married (______) Perry, Francis Browning, and John McCloud. Abner, Sr was hanged for killing (Lewis) Horton. 2. "Timothy Vance's Hompage", internet. Elizabeth Vance, daughter of Abner and Susannah Howard Vance,"... fell in love with a man that did not have good intentions toward her. ...he ruined her reputation. Abner and Susannah tried to get the man to marry Elizabeth, but he refused. After a brief argument, Abner shot the man and killed him. He supposedly hid out in Logan Co, WV before coming back to Russell Co and turning himself in." Elizabeth never married but had several children; one was "Bad" Jim Vance and another was Nancy Vance who married Ephriam Hatfield, the parents of "Devil Anse" Hatfield. dsliszewskiadded this on 24 Nov 2012 fiddlestix2007originally submitted this to Riffe Family Tree on 8 May 2011 John Ferrell and Elizabeth Vance Never married. Cthomas0761added this on 14 Sep 2011 gkobryan1originally submitted this to Tackett/York Family Tree on 18 May 2011 _______________________ Elizabeth Vance, Mother of Nancy Vance Hatfield and "Bad" Jim Vance Notes from coalexchange.com Elizabeth Vance Notes are from: http://www.coalexchange.com/smith/mcdowella/pafg536.htm#15943 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Elizabeth Vance was born in 1794. [Parents--Abner Vance Sr was born about 1763 in NC. He died on 16 Jul 1819 in Abingdon, Russell Co,VA. He married Susannah Howard in 1779 in Russell Co,VA. Susannah Howard was born in 1767 in Russell Co,VA. She died after 1850 in Logan Co,WV. ] [Notes--see below] She had the following children: Fi Nancy Vance was born on 2 May 1813. She died after 1880. Notes: Elizabeth Vance 1. "Reference Book of Wyoming County History", Mary K. Bowman, page 399. James Brown married Millie Vance, daughter of Abner Vance, Sr. Abner Vance, Sr. married in Russell Co, VA and settled on the Tug River near the present Logan Wyoming Co line. His children were: James, John, Richard, Abner, Jr, Millie, Bettie and three other daughters who married (______) Perry, Francis Browning, and John McCloud. Abner, Sr was hanged for killing (Lewis) Horton. 2. "Timothy Vance's Hompage", internet. Elizabeth Vance, daughter of Abner and Susannah Howard Vance,"... fell in love with a man that did not have good intentions toward her. ...he ruined her reputation. Abner and Susannah tried to get the man to marry Elizabeth, but he refused. After a brief argument, Abner shot the man and killed him. He supposedly hid out in Logan Co, WV before coming back to Russell Co and turning himself in." Elizabeth never married but had several children; one was "Bad" Jim Vance and another was Nancy Vance who married Ephriam Hatfield, the parents of "Devil Anse" Hatfield. dsliszewskiadded this on 24 Nov 2012 fiddlestix2007originally submitted this to Riffe Family Tree on 8 May 2011 _____________
  Family ID	F12540	Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  
  

  Family	Collins, Mary,   b. 1832, Virginia, USA d. 1888 (Age 56 years)
  Marriage	1848	Logan County, West Virginia, USA   [2, 3]
  Children	1. Vance, John,   b. Abt 1850, Logan County, West Virginia, USA  [Father: natural]  [Mother: natural]   2. Vance, Elizabeth,   b. 1855  [Father: natural]  [Mother: natural]   3. Vance, Amy,   b. 1860  [Father: natural]  [Mother: natural]   4. Vance, James,   b. 1857, Logan County, West Virginia, USA  [Father: natural]  [Mother: natural]   5. Vance, Jane,   b. Abt 1848, Logan County, West Virginia, USA d. Abt 1894 (Age 46 years)  [Father: natural]  [Mother: natural]
  Family ID	F12541	Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  
  

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  Birth - 1832 - Logan County, West Virginia, USA Civil War - CSA Co B, 34th Virginia Cavalry - - Virginia, USA Marriage - 1848 - Logan County, West Virginia, USA Residence - District 1, Pike, Kentucky, United States - 1860 - Pike County, Kentucky, USA Residence - Magnolia, Logan, West Virginia,/"a hamlet" Magnolia, West Virginia per Wikipedia, not "Mingo" or "Logan" counties, as often designated in references - 1880 - Magnolia, Mingo, West Virginia, USA Death - 8 Jan 1888 - Logan County, West Virginia, USA Burial - Aft 8 Jan 1888 - Thacker, Mingo, West Virginia, USA  = Link to Google Earth

  
  

• Photos » Slide Show		"Bad Jim" Vance, from Oker Damron, Deveil Anse photo Bad Jim Vance
  		Bad_Jim_Vance_001[1] 20250609GHLn- edited Bad_Jim_Vance_001[1] Hans Friedrichadded this on 11 Apr 2011 kcheyenne51originally submitted this to My Hatfield and Vance Line on 13 Feb 2011 Ock Damron, Devil Anse, "Bad Jim", and W.B. Borden.
  		Oker Damron, Devil Anse Hatfield, Jim Vance, Bill Borden 20230608GHLn- Pasted from front Media Details: gkobryan1added this on 25 Apr 2011; alicehat originally submitted this to Church, Turpin, Hatfield, Workman, Mullins Family Tree on 3 Apr 2011 also,: 20230608GHLn- Hatfield and McCoy Feud June 21, 2012 · FB Group Ock Damron, Devil Anse Hatfield, Jim "Crazy Jim" Vance and W.B. Borden. It was Jim…
  		Hatfield, Anse Ock Damron, Jim Vance WBBorden FB120621H&McCFeud 20230608GHLn- Hatfield and McCoy Feud June 21, 2012 · FB Group Ock Damron, Devil Anse Hatfield, Jim "Crazy Jim" Vance and W.B. Borden. It was Jim Vance, Devil Anse's uncle, who was killed by Bad Frank Phillips in 1888-and Cap Hatfield, who was with him at the time, narrowly escaped Phillips and his posse members. See less Comments Lola Vanessa…
  		Vance, Jas M mil marker fag_ 20240415GHLn- findagrave added by Terry Vance SERG JAMES M. VANCE Co. B 34 VA Cav CSA 1832 Jan 8 1888
  		Vance, Jas M youth fag_cigi 20240415GHLn- James Monroe “Jim” Vance Photo added by cigi James Monroe “Jim” Vance VVETERAN BIRTH 1832 Virginia, USA DEATH 8 Jan 1888 (aged 55-56) Logan County, West Virginia, USA BURIAL James Vance Family Cemetery Thacker, Mingo County, West Virginia, USA MEMORIAL ID130035907 · PHOTOS 8 FLOWERS 22 Added by Contributor: Terry Vance…
  		movie Vance, Jim Tom Berringer 20240606GHLn- Bad Jim Vance, played by Tom Berenger in MiniSeries, The Hatfields & McCoys, first aired on Memorial Day, 28 May 2012 my 4th great unccle - jcw also: 2012/The Herald-Dispatch Herald-Dispatch.com MiniSeries first aired on Memorial Day, 28 May 2012 2012 Best Supporting Actor in a Miniseries or a Movie -Tom Berenger, Hatfields & McCoys…
  		movie Vance, Jim Tom Berenger HistoryCh 20250526GHLn- Tom Berenger as Bad Jim Vance in 'Hatfields & McCoys' http://www.impawards.com/tv/posters/hatfields_and_mccoys_ver8_xlg.jpg

  
  

• Notes

  James(bad jim) Vance According to family history, james vance was killed around 1888 in the hatfield/mccoy fued. he reportedly shot two of randall mccoys daughters in the back while they were attempting to escape a burning house he reportedly set on fire. the mccoys had thier revenge on james vance. gkobryan1added this on 18 May 2011 randyvance48originally submitted this to Vance Family Tree on 6 Mar 2007 ____________________________________ Elizabeth Vance, Mother of Nancy Vance Hatfield and "Bad" Jim Vance Elizabeth Vance Notes are from: http://www.coalexchange.com/smith/mcdowella/pafg536.htm#15943 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Elizabeth Vance was born in 1794. [Parents--Abner Vance Sr was born about 1763 in NC. He died on 16 Jul 1819 in Abingdon, Russell Co,VA. He married Susannah Howard in 1779 in Russell Co,VA. Susannah Howard was born in 1767 in Russell Co,VA. She died after 1850 in Logan Co,WV. ] She had the following children: Fi Nancy Vance was born on 2 May 1813. She died after 1880. Elizabeth Vance 1. "Reference Book of Wyoming County History", Mary K. Bowman, page 399. James Brown married Millie Vance, daughter of Abner Vance, Sr. Abner Vance, Sr. married in Russell Co, VA and settled on the Tug River near the present Logan Wyoming Co line. His children were: James, John, Richard, Abner, Jr, Millie, Bettie and three other daughters, who married (______), Perry, Francis Browning, and John McCloud. Abner, Sr was hanged for killing (_______) Horton. 2. "Timothy Vance's Hompage", internet. Elizabeth Vance, daughter of Abner and Susannah Howard Vance,"... fell in love with a man that did not have good intentions toward her. ...he ruined her reputation. Abner and Susannah tried to get the man to marry Elizabeth, but he refused. After a brief argument, Abner shot the man and killed him. He supposedly hid out in Logan Co, WV before coming back to Russell Co and turning himself in." Elizabeth never married but had several children; one was "Bad" Jim Vance and another was Nancy Vance who married Ephriam Hatfield, the parents of "Devil Anse" Hatfield. gkobryan1 added this on 17 May 2011 fiddlestix1224 originally submitted this to Riffe Family Tree on 8 May 2011

  
  

• Sources

  [S394] Ancestry.com, Public Member Trees, (Name: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc.; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2006;), Database online. Asbury Family Tree, Owner: Kyla Asbury Last viewed: John McCloud, Skinner/Schinzel-Ahlemeyer/Haines Tree J_Ahlemeyer. Record for John McCloud [S394] Ancestry.com, Public Member Trees, (Name: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc.; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2006;), Database online., Skinner/Schinzel-Ahlemeyer/Haines Tree J_Ahlemeyer. Record for James Bad Jim Vance Elizabeth's story Elizabeth was daughter of Abner and Susannah (Howard) Vance. Her father was hanged for murder. He was in an altercation with the Lewis brothers over the sexual advances one had made toward his daughter -- likely Elizabeth. The brothers provoked him into shooting and his shot killed one of them although it was intended for the other. He was sentenced to hang and after three trials the execution day was set. He wrote a song about what happened which is now recognized as the oldest piece of folk music existing. (See story attached to his data) On the day of the execution, Abner address the crowd of nearly 4000 for an hour and a half, saying that life imprisonment was a more fitting punishment. The governor's pardon arrived after he was dead. Elizabeth never married. She was sister to Nancy Vance, the mother of Devil Anse Hatfield. Her own son, James, cousin to Devil Anse became known as Bad Jim Vance. Hans Friedrichadded this on 11 Apr 2011 RoChaVaoriginally submitted this to Vance Family Tree on 25 Feb 2009 Elizabeth's story Elizabeth was daughter of Abner and Susannah (Howard) Vance. Her father was hanged for murder. He was in an altercation with the Lewis brothers over the sexual advances one had made toward his daughter -- likely Elizabeth. The brothers provoked him into shooting and his shot killed one of them although it was intended for the other. He was sentenced to hang and after three trials the execution day was set. He wrote a song about what happened which is now recognized as the oldest piece of folk music existing. (See story attached to his data) On the day of the execution, Abner address the crowd of nearly 4000 for an hour and a half, saying that life imprisonment was a more fitting punishment. The governor's pardon arrived after he was dead. Elizabeth never married. She was sister to Nancy Vance, the mother of Devil Anse Hatfield. Her own son, James, cousin to Devil Anse became known as Bad Jim Vance. Hans Friedrichadded this on 11 Apr 2011 RoChaVaoriginally submitted this to Vance Family Tree on 25 Feb 2009 Bad_Jim_Vance_001[1] 20250609GHLn- edited Bad_Jim_Vance_001[1] Hans Friedrichadded this on 11 Apr 2011 kcheyenne51originally submitted this to My Hatfield and Vance Line on 13 Feb 2011 Ock Damron, Devil Anse, "Bad Jim", and W.B. Borden. [S394] Ancestry.com, Public Member Trees, (Name: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc.; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2006;), Database online. Tackett Family Tree, Owner: gkobryan1 re "Bad Jim" Vance Last viewed: Elizabeth Vance, Skinner/Schinzel-Ahlemeyer/Haines Tree J_Ahlemeyer. Record for James "Bad Jim" Vance James(bad jim) Vance According to family history, james vance was killed around 1888 in the hatfield/mccoy fued. he reportedly shot two of randall mccoys daughters in the back while they were attempting to escape a burning house he reportedly set on fire. the mccoys had thier revenge on james vance. gkobryan1added this on 18 May 2011 randyvance48originally submitted this to Vance Family Tree on 6 Mar 2007 ____________________________________ Elizabeth Vance, Mother of Nancy Vance Hatfield and "Bad" Jim Vance Elizabeth Vance Notes are from: http://www.coalexchange.com/smith/mcdowella/pafg536.htm#15943 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Elizabeth Vance was born in 1794. [Parents--Abner Vance Sr was born about 1763 in NC. He died on 16 Jul 1819 in Abingdon, Russell Co,VA. He married Susannah Howard in 1779 in Russell Co,VA. Susannah Howard was born in 1767 in Russell Co,VA. She died after 1850 in Logan Co,WV. ] She had the following children: Fi Nancy Vance was born on 2 May 1813. She died after 1880. Elizabeth Vance 1. "Reference Book of Wyoming County History", Mary K. Bowman, page 399. James Brown married Millie Vance, daughter of Abner Vance, Sr. Abner Vance, Sr. married in Russell Co, VA and settled on the Tug River near the present Logan Wyoming Co line. His children were: James, John, Richard, Abner, Jr, Millie, Bettie and three other daughters, who married (______), Perry, Francis Browning, and John McCloud. Abner, Sr was hanged for killing (_______) Horton. 2. "Timothy Vance's Hompage", internet. Elizabeth Vance, daughter of Abner and Susannah Howard Vance,"... fell in love with a man that did not have good intentions toward her. ...he ruined her reputation. Abner and Susannah tried to get the man to marry Elizabeth, but he refused. After a brief argument, Abner shot the man and killed him. He supposedly hid out in Logan Co, WV before coming back to Russell Co and turning himself in." Elizabeth never married but had several children; one was "Bad" Jim Vance and another was Nancy Vance who married Ephriam Hatfield, the parents of "Devil Anse" Hatfield. gkobryan1 added this on 17 May 2011 fiddlestix1224 originally submitted this to Riffe Family Tree on 8 May 2011 Oker Damron, Devil Anse Hatfield, Jim Vance, Bill Borden 20230608GHLn- Pasted from front Media Details: gkobryan1added this on 25 Apr 2011; alicehat originally submitted this to Church, Turpin, Hatfield, Workman, Mullins Family Tree on 3 Apr 2011 also,: 20230608GHLn- Hatfield and McCoy Feud June 21, 2012 · FB Group Ock Damron, Devil Anse Hatfield, Jim "Crazy Jim" Vance and W.B. Borden. It was Jim… [S394] Ancestry.com, Public Member Trees, (Name: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc.; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2006;), Database online., Skinner/Schinzel-Ahlemeyer/Haines Tree J_Ahlemeyer. Record for Elizabeth Vance [S394] Ancestry.com, Public Member Trees, (Name: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc.; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2006;), Database online. Tackett Family Tree, Owner: gkobryan1 Last viewed: Elizabeth Vance, Skinner/Schinzel-Ahlemeyer/Haines Tree J_Ahlemeyer. Record for Elizabeth Vance Elizabeth's story Elizabeth was daughter of Abner and Susannah (Howard) Vance. Her father was hanged for murder. He was in an altercation with the Lewis brothers over the sexual advances one had made toward his daughter -- likely Elizabeth. The brothers provoked him into shooting and his shot killed one of them although it was intended for the other. He was sentenced to hang and after three trials the execution day was set. He wrote a song about what happened which is now recognized as the oldest piece of folk music existing. (See story attached to his data) On the day of the execution, Abner address the crowd of nearly 4000 for an hour and a half, saying that life imprisonment was a more fitting punishment. The governor's pardon arrived after he was dead. Elizabeth never married. She was sister to Nancy Vance, the mother of Devil Anse Hatfield. Her own son, James, cousin to Devil Anse became known as Bad Jim Vance. gkobryan1added this on 27 Apr 2011 RoChaVaoriginally submitted this to Vance Family Tree on 25 Feb 2009 Elizabeth's story Elizabeth was daughter of Abner and Susannah (Howard) Vance. Her father was hanged for murder. He was in an altercation with the Lewis brothers over the sexual advances one had made toward his daughter -- likely Elizabeth. The brothers provoked him into shooting and his shot killed one of them although it was intended for the other. He was sentenced to hang and after three trials the execution day was set. He wrote a song about what happened which is now recognized as the oldest piece of folk music existing. (See story attached to his data) On the day of the execution, Abner address the crowd of nearly 4000 for an hour and a half, saying that life imprisonment was a more fitting punishment. The governor's pardon arrived after he was dead. Elizabeth never married. She was sister to Nancy Vance, the mother of Devil Anse Hatfield. Her own son, James, cousin to Devil Anse became known as Bad Jim Vance. gkobryan1added this on 27 Apr 2011 RoChaVaoriginally submitted this to Vance Family Tree on 25 Feb 2009 [S394] Ancestry.com, Public Member Trees, (Name: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc.; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2006;), Database online. WilliamsCurryFamily, Owner: SharonW0113 Last viewed: Elizabeth Vance, Skinner/Schinzel-Ahlemeyer/Haines Tree J_Ahlemeyer. Record for Elizabeth Vance [S1334] avrem@aol.com, Hatfield34491Martha.com, (Name: Ancestry.com data base;). [S1334] avrem@aol.com, Hatfield34491Martha.com, (Name: Ancestry.com data base;). has 'Big Eaf' born in Logan Co. Note that this reference also has his parents: John Hatfield, Isabella Vance

  
  

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