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- [S385] Ancestry.com, census 1930 USA, (Name: Ancestry.com Operations Inc; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2002;), Year: 1930; Census Place: Mecca, Riverside, California; Roll: 183; Page: 3B; Enumeration District: 0020; Image: 574.0; FHL microfilm: 2339918.
Record for Geo L Campbell
Geo L Campbell in the 1930 United States Federal Census
date: April 30, 1930
enumerator: Dale Kiles
Name: Geo L Campbell
[Grover Lewis Campbell]
Birth Year: abt 1886
Gender: Male
Race: White
Birthplace: Pennsylvania
Marital Status: Married
Relation to Head of House:Head
Home in 1930: Mecca, Riverside, California
Street address:Near Mecca on California Highway 64
Family Number: 1
Radio Set: No
Lives on Farm: Yes
Age at First Marriage:35
Attended School: No
Able to Read and Write:Yes
Father's Birthplace: Pennsylvania
Mother's Birthplace: Pennsylvania
Able to Speak English:Yes
Occupation: Laborer
Industry: farm
Class of Worker: Wage or salary worker
Employment: Yes
Household Members:
Name Age
Geo L Campbell 44 Head PA PA PA M35 laborer, farm
Ruth H Campbell 29 wife PA PA PA M20
Jack L Campbell 9 son CA PA PA
Tom L Campbell 6 son CA PA PA
Joe V Campbell 4 son AZ PA PA
Neighbors:
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Source Citation
Year: 1930;
Census Place: Mecca, Riverside, California;
Roll: 183;
Page: 3B;
Enumeration District: 0020;
Image: 574.0;
FHL microfilm: 2339918
Source Information
Ancestry.com. 1930 United States Federal Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2002.
Original data: United States of America, Bureau of the Census. Fifteenth Census of the United States, 1930. Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 1930. T626, 2,667 rolls.
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census 1930 USA CA Riverside Mecca 3B- Geo L Campbell
Geo L Campbell in the 1930 United States Federal Census
date: April 30, 1930
enumerator: Dale Kiles
Name: Geo L Campbell
[Grover Lewis Campbell]
Birth Year: abt 1886
Gender: Male
Race: White
Birthplace: Pennsylvania
Marital Status: Married
Relation to Head of House:Head
Home in 1930: Mecca, Riverside, California
Street address:Near Mecca on… |
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Record for Joe V Campbell
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- [S2146] AncDNA MEW, Lee campbell ancestry.com in-mail 20180103-0503 HAv Ruth, daughter; bros.
Grover & George- differ by a crime.
20180428 HAv-
Lee T Campbell
Vital Events (2 of 6 timeline events)
Birth November 11, 1937 California
Marriage 29 Aug 1968 to Private San Francisco, San Francisco, California
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Lee T Campbell
Vital Events (2 of 6 timeline events)
Birth November 11, 1937 California
Marriage 29 Aug 1968 to Private San Francisco, San Francisco, California
ancestry.com in-mail:
1st-2nd cousins
wetzupdoc1
May 06, 2018
Lee,
This is how 23andMe says Mike is related to moi, R.Farnsworth, & you:
Name Relationship
john wetzel Half Brother 27.8% DNA shared, 63 segments
Robert Farnsworth First Cousin 8.36% DNA shared, 27 segments
Lee Campbell Second Cousin 5.79% DNA shared, 16 segments
and how you and Mike are related to Rob't, P. Egan and Jas Harmon:
Relative In Common (Mike) Lee Campbell
Robert Farnsworth 1st Cousin 2nd Cousin
8.36% 3.38%
Patrick Egan 2nd Cousin 2nd Cousin
3.45% 2.23%
James Harmon 2nd Cousin 3rd Cousin
3.12% 2.28%
the top matches for Mike in his biological father's DNA lineage.
You & Robert are also both of the Y-DNA haploGroup R-L21 in 23andMe;
Mike's Y is R-M222, refined on FTDNA further to R-BY31357.
What I suspect happened, too, is that another indiscretion back up the line is masking the genetic surname, and it's a Daugherty Y. Wouldn't that be a kicker? It would help explain why the father is still not obvious, after all this DNA data in FTDNA, ancestryDNA & 23andMe.
Did you know you had a 2nd cousin Patrick Egan and a 3rd cousin James Harmon?
I'm sure I've made your eyes glaze over by now. I know, Get a life! I will, pretty soon.
Ciao for now, john
Lee campbell
May 03, 2018
I sent that before I delegated it. Moving on-
On one census, I believe it was I saw laurenza Woodruff as a last name, so didn’t think it was her. How do you know it was. A middle name. And Lorenzos are usually male, aren’t they? But I think I’ve seen some Lorenzas that were men. I know my dad said Laurenza Parker was his grandmother, and she was Indian. I wish I could settle on a way I spell her name; I’m as bad as the census takers.
Did you find the Cross Fork folder on FB?
Lee T
My brothers were:
- Jack L,
- Tom Lewis (he got a middle name, but I think because my dad’s middle name was Louis (and I just realized, maybe he was named that for his grandmother! Nah!)) and
- Joe V (born on Valentine’s Day)
Lee campbell
May 03, 2018
I tried sending a message here last night, and twice I must have touched something to make them go away, so I gave up.
The rundown of people you just went through, is too much math for my little Okie brain. I know you’re a very serious person, and I am not, so I shall say that I know I’m not an Okie, but where we lived in the desert was the first stop in California after crossing the Colorado, and most of our neighbors were from the poor parts. My mother even talked with an accent (really.). Having what little we had, I thought it a treat when I was asked to eat supper with the Mayes next door, and they drank out of jars. They were from OK. My dad always worked, but he also gambled and drank. He carried loaded dice, and cheated at cards. He would try to show me how to run the “no sevens” dice into a game, but my hands were too small. How did I get started on this?
Lee campbell
May 01, 2018
Yes, Ruth is my daughter. She lives in the same town as I, Benicia, and I see her almost daily. It was her and I that went to Scotland year before last this month, and last year, this month, we went to Hawaii. She hadn’t been there since she was two - born on Oahu when I was stationed there a couple of wives ago. My wife arranged for the trips for us. Ruth also works as the wife’s personal assistant, taking care of various things, including me. She cooks for us most of the time also.
The name was pronounced GUYS T, but said as a single syllable.
Through this site, I’ve had several contacts that I write to. One is my mother’s brother Harry’s granddaughter, and I’ve given her a lot of info. Harry was Van Natter, but also because his mother was a Campbell, that also. This woman had never thought of herself as that before I messed her up. Always glad to help out.
If you’re on Facebook, you can see my pictures from the old postcards. If not, give me your email, and I will send attachments. On Facebook there are probably a lot with my name, but the picture is the same as here.
Lee campbell
May 01, 2018
I was born in November, 1937, and the next year the song Ti-pi-tin came out, so they started calling me Tipi, and it grew out of that. I didn’t have a real first name until I started school. When I got my birth certificate for our first trip to Scotland in 1998, there was no first name listed. I had to get a noterized letter from my older brother attesting that he witnessed my birth. I have the middle initial T lest I forget. I had three older brothers, also their own, and my, cousins. My grandmother, Flora was the one that told me about the uncle/niece thing. My mother had been sent to live with her uncle and his wife while still a teenager. And it evolved from there. Two of Flora and Grover’s sisters lived in southern CA also,and when we met them, one was Flora’s sister, one was Grover’s. But if I’m going to continue talking about my dad, let’s just make him George.
Lee T
wetzupdoc1
Apr 30, 2018
Lee,
I take back what I said about your on-line tree pushing together. I was just on it again, and it's clear. Must have been the resolution I was on.
Where does "Ticky" come from, if you don't mind my asking?
Sounds like a football nickname (Tickee Barber-like).
john
wetzupdoc1
Apr 30, 2018
No, sorry, I meant my brother Mike,... uh, half brother. You're the only person I've identified him to on-line (only my wife and another brother know anything at all about this, until I get it solved.)
I've seen old pics of the Campbell Hotel, figured it had to somehow be related. A lot of Campbells, Daughertys, vanNatters and other families in Cross Fork and the Pine Creek Valley at the turn of the century. I guess they don't all have to be related. I love the old photos, they bring the whole story alive!
A Ruth Campbell tested about as strongly as you did on ancestryDNA; is she your daughter? (Shipman?)
The twist I picked up on in your tree is that your mother married her uncle, if I've got that right, what you refer to above. It's pretty clear in the Match Tree, but it pushes together in the on-line version.
I finally located your Aunt Ruth Campbell's line, just last night. She married Charles Rosco Geist (interpreted 'Geish' from the handwriting on the marriage certificate. I know some Geists, so I'm going with Geist. Is that correct?)
I figured Frank's marriage to Joycie (Baker) had to be his 2nd, [He was 38, she was 18, and the kids lined up that way.] but the marriage register clearly says it was his 1st.
I still can't find what happened to Lorenzo Daugherty, b.1880, 4 mo old in the 1880 census in Leidy, Clinton County, PA. But then, I just realized again that this does not appear to be your Daughertys, although the DNA lines are pretty strong. I'm rambling now...
I think somewhere before your grgrandfather Samuel Daugherty (My brother Mike has a Samuel Daugherty back around then, b.ca 1825) your trees converge, but this will still take a while.
Thanks again for bearing with me.
john
Lee campbell
Apr 29, 2018
You mention a Mike. If you mean Mike Vannatter, who lives upstate New York, he’s a cousin of mine. I think through Frank Handcock Vannatter (my mother’s father) and his second wife, Joycie. The Campbell Hotel didn’t have anything to do with my side. After reading about Cross Fork on Wikipedia, I assume, like the rest of the town, it’s long gone, although I have a picture of it, and several other pictures of the town from the 20s. They’re on postcards.
As for my messed up tree, I’ll tell you what causes some of it. My mother’s mother was born Flora Nettie Campbell, her sisters were Jewel, Ruth, Barbara Ella (the name she went by), and Roxie. She had one brother, Grover. To shorten the sordid story, my mother, born Henrietta Ruth Vannata (her spelling), was a Campbell because of Grover. So I have a branch of my tree twisted around another. If it helps, I’m my own cousin.
Lee
wetzupdoc1
Apr 29, 2018
Thanks for the explanation about Grover and George. I've seen both names, couldn't reconcile them, seemed sometimes like they were different people. That's relieves some heartburn on that one!
A lot happening out of Crossfork, ca 1900. Did your Campbells own the Campbell Hotel there?
Vannatter/VanNatter/van Natter... like you said, lots of spellings on that one- is another Coudersport area name, too, and is in Mike's DNA pool.
The only people to test as close or closer than you are Robert Farnsworth, then D.P. (Perry- I think Dave), and Patrick Egan, with whom I've been in contact. Patrick's family, too, moved out west a couple generations ago (Yellowstone). He never knew his father until he was 40 years old, so he doesn't have much to offer, although he did volunteer that his grandmother (maiden name Doney) would be my best bet. I was already on that one, since she ties into Chittester, and eventually back to Dingmans.
Thanks again so much, Lee, for chatting. You are helping to straighten some things out. I have some questions about your tree which I'll come back to, if that's all right, when I've had another chance to look at it.
Mike's ancestry seems to go back through Nancy Jane and Eli... or very close to them!
john
Lee campbell
Apr 28, 2018
The only name I recognize in there is Daugherty, sometimes spelled Dougherty, but Dau is probably correct. Samuel D. Married Lorenza Parker (Her given name has presented several spellings, and her first husband’s last name was Sly.) They had a few kids, and one or both of them may have brought other kids into the mix. Their daughter was Nancy Jane Daugherty. She married Eli Elliot Campbell, and they had a son and four daughters. Their son, Grover (Cleveland was president at the time), was born in 1885, in Cross Fork, PA. When Grover (then known as George, because of a crime when he was younger) was 52 when I was born, and I turned 80 last November. On my mother’s side, also from Cross Fork, the name is Vannatter (also with various spellings). Both families moved to Southern California in the early 1900s, but as far as I know, the only Daugherty to make the trek was my grandmother, Nancy.
Lee Campbell (never been to PA, live in northern CA)
wetzupdoc1
Apr 26, 2018
Hi, Lee!
Sorry about the circumspection.
I just found out a few months ago, through several DNA tests (I’m a retired chemist, full time genealogy enthusiast) that one of my siblings is actually a half-sibling(!)
You are one of the closest DNA matches.
It gets complicated-
I am also related, more distantly, to his ancestors, and I know where that intersection occurs- his other line and mine share my 4th grgrandparents, John & Hannah TURNER DINGMAN of Hebron, near Coudersport, PA.
A Campbell family, older couple, lived up the street from me on Center Park St, Coudersport, while I was growing up... but it does not appear to be this family.
Farnsworth Egan, Chittester and Perry are other close names, as is Daugherty, strong in advanced Y-DNA testing.
Many are well-know Coudy surnames but not direct links either.
Baughman figures in too.
I am working all around this, since months, filling in families and relationships from censi etc so i hope through sheer persistence and rheems of data that I will figure it out, but I was hoping that you might be in a position to help me with a little more information. Only one of my brothers is aware of this and I have no intention of telling my father, assuming he does not know; he turns 90 this fall.
Funny- today is this brother's birthday.
Thank you so much for writing!
john wetzel
Lee campbell
Apr 24, 2018
I’ve never answered your request because it didn’t make much sense to me. You said you administer a test, not saying who you’re testing, or for what. That part is fairly easy to unravel, as you mean your DNA test results. But then you say “his lineage” without saying who he is. Based on the Campbells in your tree, my guess would be Robert as the starting point, but I think there would have to be others, more recent, to make us such close cousins. And you have Wildmans, I have Wilmans.
Lee Campbell
wetzupdoc1
Jan 03, 2018
Dear Lee,
You are tagged 1st-2nd cousin to a test I administer, and so, a key to unlocking a puzzle as to his lineage. Would you mind sharing some of your ancestry? You clearly have something in common; I'm hoping you will be curious as well.
Sincerely,
john
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- [S996] Ancestry.com, census 1940 USA, (Name: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc.; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2012;), Year: 1940; Census Place: Palo Verde, Riverside, California; Roll: T627_277; Page: 9B; Enumeration District: 33-26.
Record for George Campbell
George Campbell in the 1940 United States Federal Census
Name: George Campbell
Age: 54
Estimated birth year:abt 1886
Gender: Male
Race: White
Birthplace: Pennsylvania
Marital Status: Married
Relation to Head of House:Head
Home in 1940: Palo Verde, Riverside, California
Farm: Yes
Inferred Residence in 1935:Mesa, Riverside, California
Residence in 1935: Mesa, Riverside, California
Resident on farm in 1935:No
Sheet Number: 9B
Number of Household in Order of Visitation:87
Occupation: Labor
House Owned or Rented:Rented
Value of Home or Monthly Rental if Rented:5
Attended School or College:No
Highest Grade Completed:Elementary school, 8th grade
Hours Worked Week Prior to Census:40
Class of Worker: Wage or salary worker in Government work
Income: 500
Income Other Sources:Yes
Neighbors:
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Household Members:
Name Age
George Campbell 54 Head PA Mesa Riverside CA labor, state highway
Henrietta Campbell 37 wife PA Mesa Riverside CA housewife
Jack Campbell 19 son CA Mesa Riverside? CA new worker
Tom Campbell 16 son CA Mesa Riverside CA pupil
Joe Campbell 14 son AZ Meca Riverside CA pupil
Ticky Campbell 2 son CA
Source Citation
Year: 1940; Census Place: Palo Verde, Riverside, California; Roll: T627_277; Page: 9B; Enumeration District: 33-26
Source Information
Ancestry.com. 1940 United States Federal Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2012.
Original data: United States of America, Bureau of the Census. Sixteenth Census of the United States, 1940. Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 1940. T627, 4,643 rolls.
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Joseph Campbell in the Arizona, Birth Records, 1880-1935
Name: Joseph Campbell
Birth Date: 14 Feb 1926 07:00h
Birth Place: Yuma, Yuma, Yuma, Arizona
legitimate? yes
Father: G L Campbell
his age: 40
his birth place: PA
his occupation: mechanic
Mother: Ruth Vannata
her age: 25
her birth place: PA
her occupation: housewife
her children: 2, all living
their residence: Yuma
Source Information
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Original data: Arizona Department of Health Services. Arizona Birth Records.
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Joseph Campbell in the Arizona, Birth Records, 1880-1935
Name: Joseph Campbell
Birth Date: 14 Feb 1926 07:00h
Birth Place: Yuma, Yuma, Yuma, Arizona
legitimate? yes
Father: G L Campbell
his age: 40
his birth place: PA
his occupation: mechanic
Mother: Ruth Vannata
her age: 25
her birth place: PA
her occupation: housewife
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- [S1262] AncestryDNA MEW, Lee campbell* Member since 2002, last logged in 2 days ago.
Lee campbell* pedigree
Lee campbell*
Member since 2002, last logged in 2 days ago
Predicted relationship: 2nd Cousins
Possible range: 1st - 2nd cousins
Confidence: Extremely High
Surnames (10 generation pedigree)
Beuter 4
John George Beuter (1770 - 1854)
Mary Ann Beuter (1813 - 1855)
Mary Ann beuter (1813 - 1855)
Mary E Beuter (1782 - 1879)
Campbell 8
Eli Campbell (1850 - 1916)
Eli Campbell (1849 - ?)
Flora N. Campbell (1882 - ?)
George Campbell (1885 - ?)
George W Campbell (1813 - 1892)
Grover Lewis Campbell (1886 - 1969)
Ruth H Campbell (1901 - 1972)
Samuel Simon Campbell (1786 - 1872)
Dougherty 3
Nancy J. (Jane?) Dougherty (1861 - 1912)
Nancy Jane Dougherty (1862 - ?)
samuel Dougherty (? - ?)
Hostrander 1
Elizabeth Hostrander (1792 - 1872)
Hostrander née Ostrander 1
Lewis Hostrander née Ostrander (1768 - ?)
Smee 1
Mary Smee (? - ?)
Vannatter 2
Frank Vannatter (1880 - 1947)
John Vannatter (1840 - 1920)
Pedigree
1ST GEN 2ND GEN 3RD GEN 4TH GEN 5TH GEN 6TH GEN
Samuel Simon Campbell
George W Campbell
Lewis Hostrander née Ostrander
Elizabeth Hostrander
Mary Smee
Eli Campbell
John George Beuter
Mary Ann Beuter
Mary E Beuter
Grover Lewis Campbell
samuel Dougherty
Nancy J. (Jane?) Dougherty
Susan
Lee campbell
John Vannatter
Frank Vannatter
Henrietta Couch
Ruth H Campbell
George Campbell
Eli Campbell
Mary Ann beuter
Flora N. Campbell
Nancy Jane Dougherty
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Eli Campbell
Vital Events (3 of 7 timeline events)
Birth 1850 Pennsylvania, USA
Marriage 1878 to Nancy J Campbell
Death 1916 Santa Ana, Orange, California, USA
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4 source records
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1 photos
Parents
George W Campbell
20 Dec 1813 - 28 Oct 1892
Mary Ann Beuter
8 Jun 1813 - 11 May 1855
Spouse and Children
Nancy J. (Jane?) Dougherty
1861 - 7 Sep 1912
- Grover Lewis Campbell
abt 1886 - 3 Mar 1969
- Ruth Campbell
Aug 1883 - ?
- Campbell
Nov 1885 - ?
- Julia Campbell
Oct 1890 - ?
- Roxie claire Campbell
Aug 1894 - 7 Jan 1980
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Ruth Campbell^ MEW^ 2nd - 3rd cousins XH
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AncDNA MEW^ Ruth Campbell^ MEW^ 2nd - 3rd cousins XH
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Elias Campbell
Birth 1850 Pennsylvania, USA
Marriage 1861 to Nancy Dourghty
Cross Fork, Potter, Pennsylvania, USA
Death 1916 Santa Ana Canyon, Orange, California, USA
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Parents
George Campbell ? - ?
Mary Ann Beuter ? - ?
Spouse and Children
Nancy Dourghty 1861 - 1912
- Flora Campbell 1885 - ?
- George Campbell Nov 01, 1885 - 1968
- Julia Campbell 1890 - ?
- Roxie Campbell 17 Aug 1894 - Jan 17, 1980
Elias Campbell
Birth 1850 Pennsylvania, USA
Marriage 1861 to Nancy Dourghty
Cross Fork, Potter, Pennsylvania, USA
Death 1916 Santa Ana Canyon, Orange, California, USA
Nancy Dourghty
Birth 1861
Marriage 1861 to Elias Campbell
Cross Fork, Potter, Pennsylvania, USA
Death 1912
children-
- Flora Campbell 1885 - ?
- George Campbell Nov 01, 1885 - 1968
- Julia Campbell 1890 - ?
- Roxie Campbell 17 Aug 1894 - Jan 17, 1980
George Campbell
Birth Nov 01, 1885 Cross Fork, Potter, Pennsylvania, USA
Death 1968 Hemet, Riverside, California, USA
Henrietta Ruth Vanetta
Birth October 26, 1900 Pennsylvania, USA
Death January 20, 1972 Hemet, Riverside, California, USA
Ruth Campbell^ AncDNA tree, mother's side-
Bautista Solbes
Parents
Jose Solbes ? - ?
No Mother ? - ?
Spouse and Children
Florence Irene Kelty abt 1904 - ?
Birth abt 1904 USA
Marriage 22 Jul 1930 to Bautista Esparta
Kings, New York, USA
John or Jackie Solbes ? - ?
Norma Antonia Solbes 8/26/1932 - 7/1997
Norma Antonia Solbes
Birth 8/26/1932 Pittsburgh, Allegheny, Pennsylvania, USA
Death 7/1997 North Carolina, USA
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AncDNA MEW 2-3 Ruth Campbell XH
AncDNA MEW^ Ruth Campbell^ MEW^ 2nd - 3rd cousins XH
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Elias Campbell
Birth 1850 Pennsylvania, USA
Marriage 1861 to Nancy Dourghty
Cross Fork, Potter, Pennsylvania, USA
Death 1916 Santa Ana Canyon, Orange, California, USA
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Parents
George Campbell ? - ?
Mary Ann Beuter ? - ?
Spouse and Children
Nancy Dourghty 1861 - 1912
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AncDNA MEW^ Ruth Campbell^ MEW^ 2nd - 3rd cousins XH
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Elias Campbell
Birth 1850 Pennsylvania, USA
Marriage 1861 to Nancy Dourghty
Cross Fork, Potter, Pennsylvania, USA
Death 1916 Santa Ana Canyon, Orange, California, USA
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Parents
George Campbell ? - ?
Mary Ann Beuter ? - ?
Spouse and Children
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