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- [S109] Carol Garden, e-mail: Carol Garden, cf. notes for complete text- jcw, 04.07.05.
He said Tody had told him that John Spring (born in 1810) and Harriet White had had 9 children. After her death, he married Sarah; he was 43 and the time and Sarah was 22 years old. His children by Harriet White were so angry about the marriage that most were never heard of again. He mentioned the two who went to Australia; he also thought that two of them had gone to Africa as missionaries. John and Sarah Spring also had 9 children. I had never heard about so many children, and I must ask Charlotte Harris and Tody about it. His Uncle Herbert, he said, had a chicken farm. His recollection was that Herbert had two sons, both ministers.
He said Tody had told him that John Spring (born in 1810) and Harriet White had had 9 children. After her death, he married Sarah; he was 43 and the time and Sarah was 22 years old. His children by Harriet White were so angry about the marriage that most were never heard of again. He mentioned the two who went to Australia; he also thought that two of them had gone to Africa as missionaries. John and Sarah Spring also had 9 children. I had never heard about so many children, and I must ask Charlotte Harris and Tody about it.
His Uncle Herbert, he said, had a chicken farm. His recollection was that Herbert had two sons, both ministers.
- [S149] e-mail: Valerie Blosse, 05.07.2005, (Name: Mrs. Valerie Bloss; Date: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 6:51 PM;).
Thank you for your email re. Spring family of Bedfordshire. I didn t immediately find any connections – no Thomas of Goldington c1756 or wife Sarah Bird, unfortunately, although I have 17 Thomas Springs in my records! I then looked for John (27 of those) born c1810 who married a Harriet, and was more successful. The information I have is as follows: John son of James SPRING & Lovey (CHERRY), bp. 17 Oct 1810 Wilshamstead, Beds. [Source: 1988 IGI] 1851 Census HO107/1754/181 p. 42: living at How End, Houghton Conquest, Beds. John SPRING, head, marr. 40, farmer of 41 acres employing 4 men, b. Wilshamstead, Beds., wife Harriet, 37, b. Cardington, Beds., sons James 13, scholar, b. Houghton & John 7, b. Bedford. [Wilshamstead, incidentally, is pronounced locally as Wilsted, I am told.] Wife Harriet died little more than a year later - 2 Jun 1852. When admon. was granted on 7 Nov 1876 (24 years later), John was "of Belmont Allegany County, New York, U.S.A., lace dealer". Estate under £600. [Source: Calendar of Wills] 1853 Craven & Co.'s Beds. Directory: Houghton Conquest. John SPRING farmer. John was the third of five children, his siblings being Hannah, Eliza, Amy and Lovey. John s children were James, John and Lovey Cherry. Does any of this fit in with your research? If so, I can give you a little more information re. baptismal dates etc. I shall be away from home for the next week but on my return will be happy to exchange any other information.
Source Medium: Electronic
From: Valerie Blosse [mailto:vblosse@btinternet.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 6:51 PM
To: John Wetzel
Subject: Springs of Bedfordshire
John
Glad we?re on the same wavelength! Unfortunately, I haven?t been able to find a direct connection between the line of Springs I am researching and the individuals you have mentioned so far, but we may find one eventually.
According to my research, James was born c1778 at Shillington, Beds. I have no knowledge of his parents. He was married 5 Aug 1803 at Houghton Conquest, Beds. to Lovey CHERRY [Source: IGI]
A James SPRING was the owner of 6 parcels of land in Houghton Conquest, totalling 41acres 27 perch, occupied by Titus CHERRY in 1845. Tithe payable to the Rector in 1845 was £13 13s. [Source: AT/24 Tithe Apportionment 1845 and MAT/24 map - Beds. Record Office] This was probably the same James. Was Titus the father of Lovey?
1851 Census HO107/1752 fol. 179 p.42: Wilshamstead, Beds.
James SPRING, head, widower 73, farmer of 729 acres employing 4 men & 8 boys, b. Shillington, Beds., Eliza PULLEY servant, unmarried 22, house servant, b. Wilstead, Beds., Emma PULLEY, lodger 13, lace maker. b. Wilstead, Samuel CHENEY, servant, unmarried 20, horse keeper, b. Wilstead, Beds.
1854 Beds. Post Office Directory: Wilsted. James SPRING farmer.
1864 Post Office Directory: not listed, possibly indicating James has died by this date.
I have no information on James?s wife, Lovey CHERRY. However, on her notes I have recorded: A Lovey SPRING was born to a William and Huldah SPRING on 31 Aug 1803 [less than a month after James and Lovey's marriage] at Rockport, Knox, Maine, USA. [Source: www.familysearch.org - IGI] Coincidence? Could William have been related to James and known Lovey CHERRY, naming his own child after her?
James & Lovey?s children were:
Hannah bp. 7 April 1807 Houghton Conquest, Beds.
Eliza bp. 29 Nov 1808 Wilshamstead, Beds.
John bp. 17 Oct 1810 Wilshamstead
Lovey b. 22 Aug 1814, bp.
Thank you for your email re. Spring family of Bedfordshire. I didn?t immediately find any connections - no Thomas of Goldington c1756 or wife Sarah Bird, unfortunately, although I have 17 Thomas Springs in my records! I then looked for John (27 of those) born c1810 who married a Harriet, and was more successful. The information I have is as follows:
John son of James SPRING & Lovey (CHERRY), bp. 17 Oct 1810 Wilshamstead, Beds. [Source: 1988 IGI]
1851 Census HO107/1754/181 p. 42: living at How End, Houghton Conquest, Beds.
John SPRING, head, marr. 40, farmer of 41 acres employing 4 men, b. Wilshamstead, Beds., wife Harriet, 37, b. Cardington, Beds., sons James 13, scholar, b. Houghton & John 7, b. Bedford. [Wilshamstead, incidentally, is pronounced locally as Wilsted, I am told.]
Wife Harriet died little more than a year later - 2 Jun 1852. When admon. was granted on 7 Nov 1876 (24 years later), John was "of Belmont Allegany County, New York, U.S.A., lace dealer". Estate under £600. [Source: Calendar of Wills]
1853 Craven & Co.'s Beds. Directory: Houghton Conquest.
John SPRING farmer.
John was the third of five children, his siblings being Hannah, Eliza, Amy and Lovey. John?s children were James, John and Lovey Cherry.
Does any of this fit in with your research? If so, I can give you a little more information re. baptismal dates etc. I shall be away from home for the next week but on my return will be happy to exchange any other information.
- [S109] Carol Garden, e-mail: Carol Garden, John and Harriet.
John Spring. Born: 11 Aug 1810 in England. Died: 20 Nov 1901 in Jamestown, NY. Buried in Wellsville. Father: John Spring. Wife: Harriet White. Born about 1815. Married 1836 in England. Died 2 June 1852 in Bedfordshire, England. Father: Thomas White. Mother: Susanna. 2nd Wife: Sarah Vincent. Children: James Spring. Born: 21 May 1837. John Spring. Born 12 Aug 1843 in Bedford, Bedfordshire, England. Died 26 May 1925 in Alfred, NY. Married 4 Jan 1867 to Clara Agnes Mays. Lily Vincent Spring. Born Abt 1853. Died 15 Nov 1915 in Jamestown, NY. Unmarried. Harriet Spring. Died Abt 1900. Unmarried. Charles Spring. Born Abt 1858. Harry Spring. Born Abt 1859. Ella Gertrude Spring. Born: Abt 1864. Died 22 Feb 1891 in Jamestown, NY. Unmarried Questions/Comments:
John Spring. Born: 11 Aug 1810 in England.
Died: 20 Nov 1901 in Jamestown, NY. Buried in Wellsville.
Father: John Spring.
Wife: Harriet White. Born about 1815. Married 1836 in England.
Died 2 June 1852 in Bedfordshire, England.
Father: Thomas White.
Mother: Susanna.
2nd Wife: Sarah Vincent.
Children:
James Spring. Born: 21 May 1837.
John Spring. Born 12 Aug 1843 in Bedford, Bedfordshire, England. Died 26 May 1925 in Alfred, NY. Married 4 Jan 1867 to Clara Agnes Mays.
Lily Vincent Spring. Born Abt 1853. Died 15 Nov 1915 in Jamestown, NY. Unmarried.
Harriet Spring. Died Abt 1900. Unmarried.
Charles Spring. Born Abt 1858.
Harry Spring. Born Abt 1859.
Ella Gertrude Spring. Born: Abt 1864. Died 22 Feb 1891 in Jamestown, NY. Unmarried
Questions/Comments:
- [S445] Ancestry.com, census UK 1851, (Name: Ancestry.com Operations Inc; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2005;), Class: HO107; Piece: 1754; Folio: 196; Page: 42; GSU roll: 87681-87682.
Record for John Spring (13) facts
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pasted & edited from Source Notes:
1851 England Census about John Spring
date: ? as of 30th Mar 1851
Name: John Spring
Age: 7
born: 1844
Bedfordshire, England (Wilshamsted)
Relation: Son
Father: John Spring
Mother: Harriet Spring
Gender: M (Male)
Civil Parish: Houghton Conquest
County/Island: Bedfordshire
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation: farmer of… employing 2(20?) men
Condition as to marriage:
Registration district: Ampthill
Sub-registration district: Shitlington
ED, institution, or vessel: 2d
Household schedule number: 161
Household Members:
Name Age
John Spring 40 Wilshamsted, Bed. England, farmer
Harriet Spring 37 Cardington, Bed.
James Spring 13 Houghton, Bed.
John Spring 7 Bedford, Bed.
Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 1754; Folio: 196; Page: 42; GSU roll: 87681-87682.
Source Information: Ancestry.com. 1851 England Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2005.
Original data: Census Returns of England and Wales, 1851. Kew, Surrey, England: The National Archives of the UK (TNA): Public Record Office (PRO), 1851. Data imaged from the National Archives, London, England. The National Archives gives no warranty as to the accuracy, completeness or fitness for the purpose of the information provided. Images may be used only for purposes of research, private study or education. Applications for any other use should be made to the National Archives, Kew, Richmond, Surrey TW9 4DU.
1851 England Census about John Spring: England, Bedfordshire, Houghton Conquest, How End village
Name Parent or spouse names Birth Year Birthplace Relation Residence
Thomas Dunkley Jane abt 1819 Houghton, Bedfordshire, England Head Houghton Conquest, Bedfordshire
Jane Dunkley Thomas abt 1815 Evershont, Bedfordshire, England Wife Houghton Conquest, Bedfordshire
James Dunkley Thomas,
Jane abt 1835 Houghton, Bedfordshire, England Son Houghton Conquest, Bedfordshire
William Dunkley Thomas,
Jane abt 1847 Houghton, Bedfordshire, England Son Houghton Conquest, Bedfordshire
Mary Dunkley Thomas,
Jane abt 1849 Houghton, Bedfordshire, England Daughter Houghton Conquest, Bedfordshire
Robert Richard Sarah abt 1804 Hockliffe, Bedfordshire, England Head Houghton Conquest, Bedfordshire
Sarah Richard Robert abt 1821 Edgeentt, Buckinghamshire, England Wife Houghton Conquest, Bedfordshire
William Richard Robert,
Sarah abt 1838 Houghton, Bedfordshire, England Son Houghton Conquest, Bedfordshire
Sarah Banker abt 1780 Westoning, Bedfordshire, England Head Houghton Conquest, Bedfordshire
Betsy Thorougood abt 1840 Houghton, Bedfordshire, England Visitor Houghton Conquest, Bedfordshire
Edward Arnold Mary abt 1787 Wihikehamoted, Bedfordshire, England Head Houghton Conquest, Bedfordshire
Mary Arnold Edward abt 1774 Liddlington, Bedfordshire, England Wife Houghton Conquest, Bedfordshire
Job Arnold Edward,
Mary abt 1810 Liddlington, Bedfordshire, England Son Houghton Conquest, Bedfordshire
Emma Arnold Edward,
Mary abt 1840 Houghton, Bedfordshire, England Daughter Houghton Conquest, Bedfordshire
Ellen Arnold Edward,
Mary abt 1842 Houghton, Bedfordshire, England Daughter Houghton Conquest, Bedfordshire
John Spring Harriet abt 1811 Whilshamstead, Bedfordshire, England Head Houghton Conquest, Bedfordshire
Harriet Spring John abt 1814 Cardington, Bedfordshire, England Wife Houghton Conquest, Bedfordshire
James Spring John,
Harriet abt 1838 Houghton, Bedfordshire, England Son Houghton Conquest, Bedfordshire
John Spring John,
Harriet abt 1844 Bedfordshire, England Son Houghton Conquest, Bedfordshire
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census 1851 England Bedfordshire Houghton Conquest HowEnd Ampthill Shitlington SPRING John.jpg to:
census 1851 England Bedfordshire HoughtonConquest HowEnd f196_42 SPRING John.jpg
- [S268] from Carol Garden, parish registers of Cardington, Baptisms 1813-1955. Film #1042927, items 3-16.
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