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- [S109] Carol Garden, e-mail: Carol Garden, From: Carol Garden [mailto:carolgarden@earthlink.net] Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 2:06 AM To: wetzupdoc@adelphia.net; billshats1@msn.com Subject: Family of John Spring (born 1810).
John Spring. Born: 11 Aug 1810 in England. Died: 20 Nov 1901 in Jamestown, NY. Buried in Wellsville. Father: John Spring. Wife: Harriet White. Born about 1815. Married 1836 in England. Died 2 June 1852 in Bedfordshire, England. Father: Thomas White. Mother: Susanna. 2nd Wife: Sarah Vincent. Children: James Spring. Born: 21 May 1837. John Spring. Born 12 Aug 1843 in Bedford, Bedfordshire, England. Died 26 May 1925 in Alfred, NY. Married 4 Jan 1867 to Clara Agnes Mays. Lily Vincent Spring. Born Abt 1853. Died 15 Nov 1915 in Jamestown, NY. Unmarried. Harriet Spring. Died Abt 1900. Unmarried. Charles Spring. Born Abt 1858. Harry Spring. Born Abt 1859. Ella Gertrude Spring. Born: Abt 1864. Died 22 Feb 1891 in Jamestown, NY. Unmarried Questions/Comments:
From: Carol Garden [mailto:carolgarden@earthlink.net]
Sent: Monday, May 23, 2005 2:06 AM
To: wetzupdoc@adelphia.net; billshats1@msn.com
Subject: Family of John Spring (born 1810)
Dear John and Bobby,
There is a lot more I wanted to do on this, but it's about time I sent something to you. I was just looking at a family group sheet of John Spring (who was born in 1810). Some of the information was given to me years ago by the Bob Spring in Washington State. Information given by him seems to be fairly consistent with an 1870 census record completed in Angelica, Allegany County, NY. Series M593, Roll 904, Pg. 429. Have you seen that census record? Here's information on that family group sheet:
John Spring. Born: 11 Aug 1810 in England.
Died: 20 Nov 1901 in Jamestown, NY. Buried in Wellsville.
Father: John Spring.
Wife: Harriet White. Born about 1815. Married 1836 in England.
Died 2 June 1852 in Bedfordshire, England.
Father: Thomas White.
Mother: Susanna.
2nd Wife: Sarah Vincent.
Children:
James Spring. Born: 21 May 1837.
John Spring. Born 12 Aug 1843 in Bedford, Bedfordshire, England. Died 26 May 1925 in Alfred, NY. Married 4 Jan 1867 to Clara Agnes Mays.
Lily Vincent Spring. Born Abt 1853. Died 15 Nov 1915 in Jamestown, NY. Unmarried.
Harriet Spring. Died Abt 1900. Unmarried.
Charles Spring. Born Abt 1858.
Harry Spring. Born Abt 1859.
Ella Gertrude Spring. Born: Abt 1864. Died 22 Feb 1891 in Jamestown, NY. Unmarried
Questions/Comments:
1) Who was the Washington Bob Spring? I must have the information somewhere. If not, I would think Rex Spring's daughter, Harriet (Tody) could tell us. It seems probable that he was a son of Stanley Harold Spring the youngest (10th) child of John and Clara Agnes Spring.
2) On the census record of 1870, Sarah Vincent was listed as the 'keeper of house" and was 25 years younger than John Spring. Wonder when they were married; we should be able to find a marriage record. Incidentally, he was made the administrator of her estate on 23 Nov 1915, but I do not have the exact date of her death.
3) I remember a story about 2 young men who took off for Australia and were never heard of since. I think one of them was named Harry and maybe the other was Charles.
Does any of what I have here make any sense to either of you? John, I did see John Spring #48 and Harriet White #49 and their two sons on the information you sent to me. Did you get information about births and deaths from birth/death certificates? How did you know when they were married? Did you ever find a marriage certificate for them? What did I miss from what you have sent to me?
It will be interesting to hear your comments. . .Carol
- [S981] Ancestry.com, census 1875 USA NYS, (Name: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc.; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2013;), New York State Archives; Albany, NY, USA; Census of the State of New York, 1875.
Record for John Spring (24) facts
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John Spring
in the New York, U.S., State Census, 1875
date 16 July 1875
Carl L Slafter?
Name John Spring
Gender Male
Relation Head
Age 64
Birth abt 1811
Res Amity, Allegany, New York
household 384
Line 16
Sheet 36
Household
John Spring 64
Sarah Spring 44
Sarah V Spring 21
Charles Spring 15
Harry Spring 14
Ella G Spring 9
Leona Vinson 40 sis-law
Ebbineezer Hyde 56
fam
New York State Archives; Albany, NY, USA; Census of the State of New York, 1875
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NYS Census 1875 NY Allegany Amity- John SPRING.jpg
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John Spring
in the New York, U.S., State Census, 1875
date 16 July 1875
Carl L Slafter?
Name John Spring
Gender Male
Relation Head
Age 64
Birth abt 1811
Res Amity, Allegany, New York
household 384
Line 16
Sheet 36
Household
John Spring 64
Sarah Spring 44
Sarah V Spring 21
Charles Spring 15
Harry Spring 14
Ella G Spring 9
Leona… |
- [S468] census 1870 USA NY Allegany, Year: 1870; Census Place: Angelica, Allegany, New York; Roll: M593_904; Page: 429A; Image: 234; Family History Library Film: 552403.census 1870 USA NY Allegany Angelica Alfred Center _429A SPRING John.
John SPRING (10) facts
20250421GHLn- edited, looking for name matches with property map USA NY Angelica 1869 J. SPRING- none found,
but, Ayers, Clark, Chamberlain
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1870 United States Federal Census about John Spring
date: 10th Aug 1870
Ezra Phundall?
Name: John Spring
Birth: 1810
England
Age/'70: 60
Home: Angelica, Allegany, New York
Race: White
Gender: Male
PO: Alfred Centre
Household Members:
Name Age
John Spring 60 England farmer
Sarah Spring 35 England keeping house
Lilly S Spring 16 England
Charley W Spring 12 England
Harry V Spring 11 England
Ella G Spring 5 England
Source Citation: Year: 1870; Census Place: Angelica, Allegany, New York; Roll: M593_904; Page: 429A; Image: 234; Family History Library Film: 552403.
Source Information: Ancestry.com. 1870 United States Federal Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2009. Images reproduced by FamilySearch.
Original data: 1870 U.S. census, population schedules. NARA microfilm publication M593, 1,761 rolls. Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.
Minnesota census schedules for 1870. NARA microfilm publication T132, 13 rolls. Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.
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census 1870 USA NY Allegany Angelica Alred Center SPRING John
20210707GHLn- re-organized, pasted from Source Notes:
1870 United States Federal Census about John Spring
date: 10th Aug 1870
Ezra Phundall?
Name: John Spring
Birth: 1810
England
Age/'70: 60
Home: Angelica, Allegany, New York
Race: White
Gender: Male
PO: Alfred Centre
Household Members:
Name Age
John Spring 60 England farmer
Sarah Spring 35… |
- [S109] Carol Garden, e-mail: Carol Garden, cf. notes for complete text- jcw, 04.07.05.
He said Tody had told him that John Spring (born in 1810) and Harriet White had had 9 children. After her death, he married Sarah; he was 43 and the time and Sarah was 22 years old. His children by Harriet White were so angry about the marriage that most were never heard of again. He mentioned the two who went to Australia; he also thought that two of them had gone to Africa as missionaries. John and Sarah Spring also had 9 children. I had never heard about so many children, and I must ask Charlotte Harris and Tody about it. His Uncle Herbert, he said, had a chicken farm. His recollection was that Herbert had two sons, both ministers.
He said Tody had told him that John Spring (born in 1810) and Harriet White had had 9 children. After her death, he married Sarah; he was 43 and the time and Sarah was 22 years old. His children by Harriet White were so angry about the marriage that most were never heard of again. He mentioned the two who went to Australia; he also thought that two of them had gone to Africa as missionaries. John and Sarah Spring also had 9 children. I had never heard about so many children, and I must ask Charlotte Harris and Tody about it.
His Uncle Herbert, he said, had a chicken farm. His recollection was that Herbert had two sons, both ministers.
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