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- [S161] FamilySearch.com, (Name: AFamily Search Ancestral File;).
http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp Lovey Cherry Female Family Event(s): Birth: About 1782 Of Houghton,Conquest, , Bedford, England Christening: Death: Burial: Marriages: Spouse: James Spring Family License: 05 AUG 1803 Houghton,Conquest, , Bedford, England License: 05 AUG 1803 Houghton,Conquest, , Bedford, England Messages: Record submitted by a member of the LDS Church. The record often shows the name of the individual and his or her relationship to a descendant, shown as the heir, family representative, or relative. The original records are not indexed, and you may have to look at the film frame-by-frame to find the information you want. A family group record for this couple may be in the Family Group Record Collection; Archive Section. (See the Family History Library Catalog for the film number.) These records are alphabetical by name of the father or husband. Source Information: Film Number: 455275
- [S118] John Christy Wetzel, e-mail: JCWetzel to Carol Garden, 04.07.2005.
Carol, I think this works. This means that John (b. 1810) is the son of James (b. 1784), not the son of John, who, as you ve pointed out, died in infancy anyway. Have you been able to find any corroborating evidence, rather than the process of elimination? I do feel we re on to something. Thank you for your help. I m going to make this tentative change, anyway, and reference this correspondence. Anything more on the family, like Lovey Cherry and her family? That makes her, and her ancestors, our ancestors too!! john
Carol,
I think this works. This means that John (b. 1810) is the son of James (b. 1784), not the son of John, who, as you?ve pointed out, died in infancy anyway.
Have you been able to find any corroborating evidence, rather than the process of elimination? I do feel we?re on to something. Thank you for your help. I?m going to make this tentative change, anyway, and reference this correspondence.
Anything more on the family, like Lovey Cherry and her family? That makes her, and her ancestors, our ancestors too!!
john
- [S109] Carol Garden, e-mail: Carol Garden, My report from the Family History Library in Salt Lake City (SLC):.
Jams Spring (5) facts
Dear Bobby and John,
This is my report from the Family History Library in Salt Lake City (SLC):
James Spring married Lovey Cherry on 5 Aug 1803 at Houghton Conquest, Bedford, England.
James was born abt. 1778 and Lovey abt 1782.
(From: Bedfordshire Parish Records 1539 -1812. . .on film)
Lovey Cherry was born 5 Apr 1782 and christened 20 Oct 1782 at Houghton Conquest, Bedford, England.
Parents: Titus Cherry and Hannah.
(From: 1539 - 1812. . .on the same film)
Dau Eliza was baptized 29 Nov 1808 at (Villata de Bedeford) Wilstead, Bedfordshire
Son John was baptized 17 Oct 1810 at (Villata de Bedeford) Wilstead, Bedfordshire
Dau Amy was baptized 13 Oct 1812 at (Villata de Bedeford) Wilstead, Bedfordshire
(Baptisms from: Parish Registers of Wilstead, 1593 - 1812)
- [S149] e-mail: Valerie Blosse, 05.07.2005, (Name: Mrs. Valerie Bloss; Date: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 6:51 PM;).
e-mail: Valerie Blosse, 05.07.05 a: James was born c1778 at Shillington, Beds. I have no knowledge of his parents. He was married 5 Aug 1803 at Houghton Conquest, Beds. to Lovey CHERRY [Source: IGI] A James SPRING was the owner of 6 parcels of land in Houghton Conquest, totalling 41 acres 27 perch, occupied by Titus CHERRY in 1845. Tithe payable to the Rector in 1845 was £13 13s. [Source: AT/24 Tithe Apportionment 1845 and MAT/24 map - Beds. Record Office] This was probably the same James. Was Titus the father of Lovey? 1851 Census HO107/1752 fol. 179 p.42: Wilshamstead, Beds. James SPRING, head, widower 73, farmer of 729 acres employing 4 men & 8 boys, b. Shillington, Beds., Eliza PULLEY servant, unmarried 22, house servant, b. Wilstead, Beds., Emma PULLEY, lodger 13, lace maker. b. Wilstead, Samuel CHENEY, servant, unmarried 20, horse keeper, b. Wilstead, Beds. 1854 Beds. Post Office Directory: Wilsted. James SPRING farmer. 1864 Post Office Directory: not listed, possibly indicating James has died by this date. I have no information on James s wife, Lovey CHERRY. However, on her notes I have recorded: A Lovey SPRING was born to a William and Huldah SPRING on 31 Aug 1803 [less than a month after James and Lovey's marriage] at Rockport, Knox, Maine, USA. [Source: www.familysearch.org - IGI] Coincidence? Could William have been related to James and known Lovey CHERRY, naming his own child after her? James & Lovey s children were: Hannah bp. 7 April 1807 Houghton Conquest, Beds. Eliza bp. 29 Nov 1808 Wilshamstead, Beds. John bp. 17 Oct 1810 Wilshamstead, Beds. Amy bp. Oct 1812 Wilshamstead, Beds. Lovey b. 22 Aug 1814, bp. 31 Mar 1815 Wilshamstead, Beds. [Source: IGI] I have no record of John's marriage to Harriet, and the information concerning their children James and John I have gleaned from the 1851 census. Their third child, Lovey Cherry SPRING, I discovered on the IGI at www.familysearch.org bp. 22 May 1852 at Houghton Conquest. This is the sum total of my...
e-mail: Valerie Blosse, 05.07.05 b:
James was born c1778 at Shillington, Beds. I have no knowledge of his parents.
He was married 5 Aug 1803 at Houghton Conquest, Beds. to Lovey CHERRY [Source: IGI]
A James SPRING was the owner of 6 parcels of land in Houghton Conquest, totalling 41 acres 27 perch, occupied by Titus CHERRY in 1845. Tithe payable to the Rector in 1845 was £13 13s. [Source: AT/24 Tithe Apportionment 1845 and MAT/24 map - Beds. Record Office] This was probably the same James. Was Titus the father of Lovey?
1851 Census HO107/1752 fol. 179 p.42: Wilshamstead, Beds.
James SPRING, head, widower 73, farmer of 729 acres employing 4 men & 8 boys, b. Shillington, Beds.,
Eliza PULLEY servant, unmarried 22, house servant, b. Wilstead, Beds.,
Emma PULLEY, lodger 13, lace maker. b. Wilstead,
Samuel CHENEY, servant, unmarried 20, horse keeper, b. Wilstead, Beds.
1854 Beds. Post Office Directory: Wilsted. James SPRING farmer.
1864 Post Office Directory: not listed, possibly indicating James has died by this date.
I have no information on James?s wife, Lovey CHERRY. However, on her notes I have recorded: A Lovey SPRING was born to a William and Huldah SPRING on 31 Aug 1803 [less than a month after James and Lovey's marriage] at Rockport, Knox, Maine, USA. [Source: www.familysearch.org - IGI] Coincidence? Could William have been related to James and known Lovey CHERRY, naming his own child after her?
James & Lovey?s children were:
Hannah bp. 7 April 1807 Houghton Conquest, Beds.
Eliza bp. 29 Nov 1808 Wilshamstead, Beds.
John bp. 17 Oct 1810 Wilshamstead, Beds.
Amy bp. Oct 1812 Wilshamstead, Beds.
Lovey b. 22 Aug 1814, bp. 31 Mar 1815 Wilshamstead, Beds. [Source: IGI]
I have no record of John's marriage to Harriet, and the information concerning their children James and John I have gleaned from the 1851 census. Their third child, Lovey Cherry SPRING, I discovered on the IGI at www.familysearch.org bp. 22 May 1852 at Houghton Conquest.
This is the sum total of my...
- [S149] e-mail: Valerie Blosse, 05.07.2005, (Name: Mrs. Valerie Bloss; Date: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 6:51 PM;).
Thank you for your email re. Spring family of Bedfordshire. I didn t immediately find any connections – no Thomas of Goldington c1756 or wife Sarah Bird, unfortunately, although I have 17 Thomas Springs in my records! I then looked for John (27 of those) born c1810 who married a Harriet, and was more successful. The information I have is as follows: John son of James SPRING & Lovey (CHERRY), bp. 17 Oct 1810 Wilshamstead, Beds. [Source: 1988 IGI] 1851 Census HO107/1754/181 p. 42: living at How End, Houghton Conquest, Beds. John SPRING, head, marr. 40, farmer of 41 acres employing 4 men, b. Wilshamstead, Beds., wife Harriet, 37, b. Cardington, Beds., sons James 13, scholar, b. Houghton & John 7, b. Bedford. [Wilshamstead, incidentally, is pronounced locally as Wilsted, I am told.] Wife Harriet died little more than a year later - 2 Jun 1852. When admon. was granted on 7 Nov 1876 (24 years later), John was "of Belmont Allegany County, New York, U.S.A., lace dealer". Estate under £600. [Source: Calendar of Wills] 1853 Craven & Co.'s Beds. Directory: Houghton Conquest. John SPRING farmer. John was the third of five children, his siblings being Hannah, Eliza, Amy and Lovey. John s children were James, John and Lovey Cherry. Does any of this fit in with your research? If so, I can give you a little more information re. baptismal dates etc. I shall be away from home for the next week but on my return will be happy to exchange any other information.
Source Medium: Electronic
From: Valerie Blosse [mailto:vblosse@btinternet.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 6:51 PM
To: John Wetzel
Subject: Springs of Bedfordshire
John
Glad we?re on the same wavelength! Unfortunately, I haven?t been able to find a direct connection between the line of Springs I am researching and the individuals you have mentioned so far, but we may find one eventually.
According to my research, James was born c1778 at Shillington, Beds. I have no knowledge of his parents. He was married 5 Aug 1803 at Houghton Conquest, Beds. to Lovey CHERRY [Source: IGI]
A James SPRING was the owner of 6 parcels of land in Houghton Conquest, totalling 41acres 27 perch, occupied by Titus CHERRY in 1845. Tithe payable to the Rector in 1845 was £13 13s. [Source: AT/24 Tithe Apportionment 1845 and MAT/24 map - Beds. Record Office] This was probably the same James. Was Titus the father of Lovey?
1851 Census HO107/1752 fol. 179 p.42: Wilshamstead, Beds.
James SPRING, head, widower 73, farmer of 729 acres employing 4 men & 8 boys, b. Shillington, Beds., Eliza PULLEY servant, unmarried 22, house servant, b. Wilstead, Beds., Emma PULLEY, lodger 13, lace maker. b. Wilstead, Samuel CHENEY, servant, unmarried 20, horse keeper, b. Wilstead, Beds.
1854 Beds. Post Office Directory: Wilsted. James SPRING farmer.
1864 Post Office Directory: not listed, possibly indicating James has died by this date.
I have no information on James?s wife, Lovey CHERRY. However, on her notes I have recorded: A Lovey SPRING was born to a William and Huldah SPRING on 31 Aug 1803 [less than a month after James and Lovey's marriage] at Rockport, Knox, Maine, USA. [Source: www.familysearch.org - IGI] Coincidence? Could William have been related to James and known Lovey CHERRY, naming his own child after her?
James & Lovey?s children were:
Hannah bp. 7 April 1807 Houghton Conquest, Beds.
Eliza bp. 29 Nov 1808 Wilshamstead, Beds.
John bp. 17 Oct 1810 Wilshamstead
Lovey b. 22 Aug 1814, bp.
Thank you for your email re. Spring family of Bedfordshire. I didn?t immediately find any connections - no Thomas of Goldington c1756 or wife Sarah Bird, unfortunately, although I have 17 Thomas Springs in my records! I then looked for John (27 of those) born c1810 who married a Harriet, and was more successful. The information I have is as follows:
John son of James SPRING & Lovey (CHERRY), bp. 17 Oct 1810 Wilshamstead, Beds. [Source: 1988 IGI]
1851 Census HO107/1754/181 p. 42: living at How End, Houghton Conquest, Beds.
John SPRING, head, marr. 40, farmer of 41 acres employing 4 men, b. Wilshamstead, Beds., wife Harriet, 37, b. Cardington, Beds., sons James 13, scholar, b. Houghton & John 7, b. Bedford. [Wilshamstead, incidentally, is pronounced locally as Wilsted, I am told.]
Wife Harriet died little more than a year later - 2 Jun 1852. When admon. was granted on 7 Nov 1876 (24 years later), John was "of Belmont Allegany County, New York, U.S.A., lace dealer". Estate under £600. [Source: Calendar of Wills]
1853 Craven & Co.'s Beds. Directory: Houghton Conquest.
John SPRING farmer.
John was the third of five children, his siblings being Hannah, Eliza, Amy and Lovey. John?s children were James, John and Lovey Cherry.
Does any of this fit in with your research? If so, I can give you a little more information re. baptismal dates etc. I shall be away from home for the next week but on my return will be happy to exchange any other information.
- [S959] census 1900 USA NY, Year: 1900; Census Place: Jamestown Ward 1, Chautauqua, New York; Roll: 1014; Page: 13; Enumeration District: 0103.
Record for John A Spring (14) facts
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John A Spring in the 1900 United States Federal Census
date: 7th Jun 1900
Russell J. Forbes, Jr
Name John Spring
Age 88
Birth Aug 1811 England
Home City of Jamestown Ward 1, Chautauqua, New York
Street Kent Street
House 221
Sheet 13
Order 227
Family 276
Race White
Gender Male
Immigration 1870
Relation Head
Status Widowed
Father's Birth England
Mother's Birth England
Years in US 30
Naturalization Naturalized
Occupation Landlord
Read Yes
Write Yes
Speak Yes
House Own
Home Mortgaged
Farm/House H
Household Members
John A Spring 88 Head
Lily B Spring 35 Daughter
Year: 1900; Census Place: Jamestown Ward 1, Chautauqua, New York; Roll: 1014; Page: 13; Enumeration District: 0103
Name Birth Marriage Arrival Residence
John A Olson Nov 1875 Sweden 1893 1900 Jamestown Ward 1, Chautauqua, New York, USA
Anna E Olson Apr 1877 Sweden 1892 1900 Jamestown Ward 1, Chautauqua, New York, USA
Gertrude Olson Jan 1880 Sweden 1892 1900 Jamestown Ward 1, Chautauqua, New York, USA
John E Lindberg Nov 1878 Sweden 1889 1900 Jamestown Ward 1, Chautauqua, New York, USA
Anna M Olson Aug 1849 Sweden 1892 1900 Jamestown Ward 1, Chautauqua, New York, USA
John Spring Aug 1811 England 1870 1900 Jamestown Ward 1, Chautauqua, New York, USA
Lily B Spring Aug 1864 England 1870 1900 Jamestown Ward 1, Chautauqua, New York, USA
Charles Carpenter Feb 1873 New York, USA 1893 1900 Jamestown Ward 1, Chautauqua, New York, USA
Daisy K Carpenter Oct 1872 Canada 1893 1881 1900 Jamestown Ward 1, Chautauqua, New York, USA
Earl K Carpenter Aug 1894 New York, USA 1900 Jamestown Ward 1, Chautauqua, New York, USA
Muriel C Dek Carpenter Jul 1898 New York, USA 1900 Jamestown Ward 1, Chautauqua, New York, USA
August Burland Sep 1854 Sweden 1880 1870 1900 Jamestown Ward 1, Chautauqua, New York, USA
Matilda Burland Feb 1851 Sweden 1880 1873 1900 Jamestown Ward 1, Chautauqua, New York, USA
Ella M Burland Dec 1886 New York, USA 1900 Jamestown Ward 1, Chautauqua, New York, USA
Almet R Burland Aug 1892 New York, USA 1900 Jamestown Ward 1, Chautauqua, New York, USA
John A Farm Jan 1874 New York, USA 1895 1900 Jamestown Ward 1, Chautauqua, New York, USA
Emma L Farm May 1874 New York, USA 1895 1900 Jamestown Ward 1, Chautauqua, New York, USA
Louie E Farm Nov 1896 New York, USA 1900 Jamestown Ward 1, Chautauqua, New York, USA
Clayton J Farm Jan 1900 New York, USA 1900 Jamestown Ward 1, Chautauqua, New York, USA
August Swanson Sep 1862 Sweden 1888 1888 1900 Jamestown Ward 1, Chautauqua, New York, USA
Hedwig O Swanson Oct 1870 Sweden 1888 1890 1900 Jamestown Ward 1, Chautauqua, New York, USA
Victoria H Swanson Oct 1888 Sweden 1890 1900 Jamestown Ward 1, Chautauqua, New York, USA
Lily A Swanson Aug 1892 Pennsylvania, USA 1900 Jamestown Ward 1, Chautauqua, New York, USA
Paul H Swanson Jul 1894 Pennsylvania, USA 1900 Jamestown Ward 1, Chautauqua, New York, USA
Anna B E Swanson Dec 1896 New York, USA 1900 Jamestown Ward 1, Chautauqua, New York, USA
John Johnson Aug 1844 Sweden 1876 1870 1900 Jamestown Ward 1, Chautauqua, New York, USA
Alice Johnson Jul 1847 Sweden 1876 1871 1900 Jamestown Ward 1, Chautauqua, New York, USA
Hilda Johnson Dec 1874 New York, USA 1900 Jamestown Ward 1, Chautauqua, New York, USA
Emil C Johnson May 1879 New York, USA 1900 Jamestown Ward 1, Chautauqua, New York, USA
Arthur W Johnson Aug 1884 New York, USA 1900 Jamestown Ward 1, Chautauqua, New York, USA
Oscar F Johnson Aug 1884 New York, USA 1900 Jamestown Ward 1, Chautauqua, New York, USA
Ernest Johnson Feb 1890 New York, USA 1900 Jamestown Ward 1, Chautauqua, New York, USA
Silas Blanchard Oct 1846 New York, USA 1870 1900 Jamestown Ward 1, Chautauqua, New York, USA
Maria Blanchard Feb 1844 New York, USA 1870 1900 Jamestown Ward 1, Chautauqua, New York, USA
Earl Blanchard Apr 1879 New York, USA 1900 Jamestown Ward 1, Chautauqua, New York, USA
Elbridge G Peirce May 1867 1895 1900 Jamestown Ward 1, Chautauqua, New York, USA
Florence S Peirce Dec 1872 District_Columbia 1895 1900 Jamestown Ward 1, Chautauqua, New York, USA
Esther J Nelson Oct 1880 Sweden 1883 1900 Jamestown Ward 1, Chautauqua, New York, USA
Samuel J Sample May 1835 New York, USA 1873 1900 Jamestown Ward 1, Chautauqua, New York, USA
Mariam J Sample Jan 1848 New York, USA 1873 1900 Jamestown Ward 1, Chautauqua, New York, USA
Parker L Sample Apr 1878 New York, USA 1900 Jamestown Ward 1, Chautauqua, New York, USA
Chester H Sample Aug 1880 New York, USA 1900 Jamestown Ward 1, Chautauqua, New York, USA
Annie M Green Dec 1818 New York, USA 1900 Jamestown Ward 1, Chautauqua, New York, USA
Orlando D Green Jun 1848 New York, USA 1900 Jamestown Ward 1, Chautauqua, New York, USA
Louise C Green Jan 1857 New York, USA 1900 Jamestown Ward 1, Chautauqua, New York, USA
Charles C Green Mar 1859 New York, USA 1900 Jamestown Ward 1, Chautauqua, New York, USA
Dorothy E Green Jun 1896 New York, USA 1900 Jamestown Ward 1, Chautauqua, New York, USA
Henry Freeman Nov 1841 New York, USA 1900 Jamestown Ward 1, Chautauqua, New York, USA
Charles E Freeman Apr 1845 New York, USA 1900 Jamestown Ward 1, Chautauqua, New York, USA
Sybil J Freeman Jul 1848 New York, USA 1900 Jamestown Ward 1, Chautauqua, New York, USA
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census 1900 USA NY Chautauqua Jamestown W1-103_13 John A SPRING.jpg 20230910GHLn-
John A Spring in the 1900 United States Federal Census
date: 7th Jun 1900
Russell J. Forbes, Jr
Name John Spring
Age 88
Birth Aug 1811 England
Home City of Jamestown Ward 1, Chautauqua, New York
Street Kent Street
House 221
Sheet 13
Order 227
Family 276
Race White
Gender Male
Immigration 1870
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- [S109] Carol Garden, e-mail: Carol Garden.
James Spring married Lovey Cherry on 5 Aug 1803 at Houghton Conquest, Bedford, England. James was born abt. 1778 and Lovey abt 1782. (From: Bedfordshire Parish Records 1539 -1812. . .on film) Lovey Cherry was born 5 Apr 1782 and christened 20 Oct 1782 at Houghton Conquest, Bedford, England. Parents: Titus Cherry and Hannah. (From: 1539 - 1812. . .on the same film) Dau Eliza was baptized 29 Nov 1808 at (Villata de Bedeford) Wilstead, Bedfordshire Son John was baptized 17 Oct 1810 at (Villata de Bedeford) Wilstead, Bedfordshire Dau Amy was baptized 13 Oct 1812 at (Villata de Bedeford) Wilstead, Bedfordshire (Baptisms from: Parish Registers of Wilstead, 1593 - 1812) Notes: 1) From a previous message from you John, I learned that Wilshamstead and Wilstead must be synonymous. I was glad I didn't have to figure that out today. 2) I didn't see a record of the other 2 children of James Spring and Lovey Cherry (Hannah and Lovey) mentioned by Mrs. Blosse. Both of those names would certainly make sense for the couple: One child named after her mother and one after her. 3) We hoped that James Spring would match up with the record I talked about earlier. Note that the 'about' birth date (1778) in the marriage record is slightly different from the baptism registry of James as the son of Thomas and Sarah. (That was 1784) 4) I don't know if Villata de Bedeford is the name of the church or if it means "village of Bedfordshire" or what? Do one of you know? Doesn't matter. Just curious. I have an original copy of John Spring's 1901 obituary giving his age; it fits. Bob Spring has a copy of his death certificate listing his parents' names. Who could have made the name Lovey Cherry up? And all the information I found today fits. Bobby, I think that you had another reference, as well. I don't know what more evidence we need than what we already have. Are you satisfied that we are on the right track?
- [S161] FamilySearch.com, (Name: AFamily Search Ancestral File;), * James SPRING.
http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp Lovey Cherry Female Family Event(s): Birth: About 1782 Of Houghton,Conquest, , Bedford, England Christening: Death: Burial: Marriages: Spouse: James Spring Family License: 05 AUG 1803 Houghton,Conquest, , Bedford, England License: 05 AUG 1803 Houghton,Conquest, , Bedford, England Messages: Record submitted by a member of the LDS Church. The record often shows the name of the individual and his or her relationship to a descendant, shown as the heir, family representative, or relative. The original records are not indexed, and you may have to look at the film frame-by-frame to find the information you want. A family group record for this couple may be in the Family Group Record Collection; Archive Section. (See the Family History Library Catalog for the film number.) These records are alphabetical by name of the father or husband. Film Number: 455275
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http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp
Lovey Cherry Female Family Event(s):
Birth: About 1782 Of Houghton,Conquest, , Bedford, England
Christening: Death: Burial: Marriages:
Spouse: James Spring
Family
License: 05 AUG 1803 Houghton,Conquest, , Bedford, England
License: 05 AUG 1803 Houghton,Conquest, , Bedford, England
Messages: Record submitted by a member of the LDS Church. The record often shows the name of the individual and his or her relationship to a descendant, shown as the heir, family representative, or relative. The original records are not indexed, and you may have to look at the film frame-by-frame to find the information you want. A family group record for this couple may be in the Family Group Record Collection; Archive Section. (See the Family History Library Catalog for the film number.) These records are alphabetical by name of the father or husband. Film Number: 455275
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