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- [S109] Carol Garden, e-mail: Carol Garden, Carol's grandparents Nathan & Agnes Clara Spring Saunders.
20190214HAv Stanley Spring Saunders re-organized (7) facts
From: Carol Garden [mailto:carolgarden@earthlink.net]
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 12:46 AM
To: wetzupdoc
Subject: Family of Agnes Clara Spring Saunders. . .
John,
I'm trying to answer your messages one at a time, to avoid my getting confused. (That may happen all too easily). I received two messages from Bobby also, which was nice. Thank you! I have been forwarding your messages to Charlotte Harris (Rex Spring's granddaughter, as I believe I mentioned before), so don't be surprised if you hear from Charlotte.
My grandmother was born 26 Oct 1867 in New York City ( I always heard it was at Ellis Island). My grandfather was born 8 Jan 1869 in England. My grandfather was known as Nathan Saunders; I believe I picked up the other names for him from a copy of a birth certificate I sent to England for ~ 35 years ago. He and Agnes Clara Spring had 3 children.
Briefly:
1) Clara Agnes (yes, that name again) Wakefield - born 5 May 1901 (one child)
2) Stanley Spring Saunders - born 1 July 1904 (5 living children)
*3) Harriet Saunders Garden - born 25 Jan 1907
I am one of Harriet Garden's 3 children. I went back to my maiden name a few years ago. (How confusing is that!) My parents met when my mother was teaching high school art in Niagara Falls and my father was a young army officer. They were married 15 Oct 1937.
My Aunt Clara died (of cancer) shortly after we went to Germany in Feb 1950. I have the date of her death as 16 Apr 1950. I don't remember exactly when Stanley died, but one of these days I'll look it up. My mother died in Salinas, Monterey County, California - 23 Feb 1997. They were all very close.
I'll fill in more information about Stanley's children another time. The three youngest live in Florida, the oldest (Hiram) is in Texas and Marilyn lives in the Virgin Islands. Clara's son is Irving Wakefield, who I'm quite certain still lives in the Alfred-Almond area.
In answer to a previous question, my grandmother died 12 Dec 1962 in Hornell, Steuben (?) County and was buried in Alfred 16 Dec 1962. My grandfather died in Hornell 26 June 1947 and was also buried in Alfred 28 June 1947. I wasn't very old at the time, but I remember that; he always seemed like such a kind, quiet man. If I remember correctly my grandparents gravestones have the birth dates switched, which is something my grandmother did, since she was of the opinion that the man should be older than his wife.
There's more, as always, so until later. . . .Carol
From: Carol Garden [mailto:carolgarden@earthlink.net]
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 12:46 AM
To: wetzupdoc
Subject: Family of Agnes Clara Spring Saunders. . .
John,
I'm trying to answer your messages one at a time, to avoid my getting confused. (That may happen all too easily). I received two messages from Bobby also, which was nice. Thank you! I have been forwarding your messages to Charlotte Harris (Rex Spring's granddaughter, as I believe I mentioned before), so don't be surprised if you hear from Charlotte.
My grandmother was born 26 Oct 1867 in New York City ( I always heard it was at Ellis Island). My grandfather was born 8 Jan 1869 in England. My grandfather was known as Nathan Saunders; I believe I picked up the other names for him from a copy of a birth certificate I sent to England for ~ 35 years ago. He and Agnes Clara Spring had 3 children.
Briefly:
1) Clara Agnes (yes, that name again) Wakefield - born 5 May 1901 (one child)
2) Stanley Spring Saunders - born 1 July 1904 (5 living children)
*3) Harriet Saunders Garden - born 25 Jan 1907
I am one of Harriet Garden's 3 children. I went back to my maiden name a few years ago. (How confusing is that!) My parents met when my mother was teaching high school art in Niagara Falls and my father was a young army officer. They were married 15 Oct 1937.
My Aunt Clara died (of cancer) shortly after we went to Germany in Feb 1950. I have the date of her death as 16 Apr 1950. I don't remember exactly when Stanley died, but one of these days I'll look it up. My mother died in Salinas, Monterey County, California - 23 Feb 1997. They were all very close.
I'll fill in more information about Stanley's children another time. The three youngest live in Florida, the oldest (Hiram) is in Texas and Marilyn lives in the Virgin Islands. Clara's son is Irving Wakefield, who I'm quite certain still lives in the Alfred-Almond area.
In answer to a previous question, my grandmother died 12 Dec 1962 in Hornell, Steuben (?) County and was buried in Alfred 16 Dec 1962. My grandfather died in Hornell 26 June 1947 and was also buried in Alfred 28 June 1947. I wasn't very old at the time, but I remember that; he always seemed like such a kind, quiet man. If I remember correctly my grandparents gravestones have the birth dates switched, which is something my grandmother did, since she was of the opinion that the man should be older than his wife.
There's more, as always, so until later. . . .Carol
- [S507] census 1880 USA NY Allegany, (Name: www.ancestry.com;), Year: 1880; Census Place: Angelica, Allegany, New York; Roll: 809; Family History Film: 1254809; Page: 98C; Enumeration District: 7; Image: 0197.
Record for John Spring (24) facts
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1880 United States Federal Census about John Spring
date: 12th June 1880
Edwin P. Blanchard
Name: John Spring
Home: Angelica, Allegany, New York
Age: 36
birth: 1844
England
Relation: Self (Head)
Spouse: Clara Spring
Father's birthplace: England
Mother's birthplace: England
Occ: Farmer
Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Male
Household Members:
Name Age
98C
John Spring 36 England Eng Eng farmer
Clara Spring 36 England Eng Eng
Agnes Spring 12 NY Eng Eng
Herbert Spring 5 NJ Eng Eng (note born in NJ-jcw, 26.01.2011)
Ethel Spring 3 NY Eng Eng
Reginald Spring 1 NY Eng Eng
Source Citation: Year: 1880; Census Place: Angelica, Allegany, New York; Roll: 809; Family History Film: 1254809; Page: 98C; Enumeration District: 7; Image: 0197.
Source Information: Ancestry.com and The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. 1880 United States Federal Census [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2010. 1880 U.S. Census Index provided by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints © Copyright 1999 Intellectual Reserve, Inc. All rights reserved. All use is subject to the limited use license and other terms and conditions applicable to this site.
Original data: Tenth Census of the United States, 1880. (NARA microfilm publication T9, 1,454 rolls). Records of the Bureau of the Census, Record Group 29. National Archives, Washington, D.C.
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census 1880 USA NY Allegany Angelica SPRING John p1 1880 United States Federal Census about John Spring
date: 12th June 1880
Edwin P. Blanchard
Name: John Spring
Home: Angelica, Allegany, New York
Age: 36
birth: 1844
England
Relation: Self (Head)
Spouse: Clara Spring
Father's birthplace: England
Mother's birthplace: England
Occ: Farmer
Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Male
Household… |
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census 1880 USA NY Allegany Angelica 7_98D SPRING Herbert 1880 United States Federal Census about John Spring
date: 12th June 1880
Edwin P. Blanchard
Name: John Spring
Home: Angelica, Allegany, New York
Age: 36
birth: 1844
England
Relation: Self (Head)
Spouse: Clara Spring
Father's birthplace: England
Mother's birthplace: England
Occ: Farmer
Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Male
Household… |
- [S239] 1870 United States Federal Census, census 1870 USA NJ, Year: 1870; Census Place: Landis, Cumberland, New Jersey; Roll: M593_859; Page: 427A.
Record for John Spring (20) facts
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John Spring in the 1870 United States Federal Census
date 16th August 1870
Charles P. Lord
Name John Spring
Age 27
Birth abt 1843 England
Dwelling 1648
Home Landis twp, Cumberland, New Jersey
Race White
Gender Male
PO Vineland
Occ Farmer
Father of Foreign Birth Yes
Mother of Foreign Birth Yes
Personal Estate Value 100
Real Estate Value 700
Inferred Spouse Clara Spring
Inferred Children Agnes Spring
John Spring
Household
John Spring 27 Eng farm
Clara Spring 26 Eng
Agnes Spring 2 NY
John Spring 1 NY
Year: 1870; Census Place: Landis, Cumberland, New Jersey; Roll: M593_859; Page: 427A
Provided in association with National Archives and Records Administration
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John Spring in the 1870 United States Federal Census
date 16th August 1870
Charles P. Lord
Name John Spring
Age 27
Birth abt 1843 England
Dwelling 1648
Home Landis twp, Cumberland, New Jersey
Race White
Gender Male
PO Vineland
Occ Farmer
Father of Foreign Birth Yes
Mother of Foreign Birth Yes
Personal Estate Value 100
Real Estate… |
- [S1115] Ancestry.com, U.S., Find A Grave Index, 1600s-Current, (Name: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc.; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2012;), John Spring, findagrave- used to own land on which Alfred University is now situated!.
Record for John Spring (24) facts
John Spring
Birth: Aug. 12, 1843
Bedfordshire, England
Death: May 26, 1925
Alfred, Allegany County, New York, USA
Husband of Clara A. Spring
Known children:
Agnes Spring
John Spring
Herbert Spring
Ethel Spring
Reginald Spring
Harriet Spring
Basil M. Spring
Stanley Spring
Edith Spring
Per Find A Grave contributor Zoe Tom:
John Spring was born in Bedford, Bedfordshire, England
Owned much of the land on which Alfred University is now located. It was farmland, that Uncle Joe once helped farm!!
--Conversation, Uncle Joe, ... 04 March '00
Father: John SPRING b: 11 AUG 1810 in Wilhamstead or Goldington, England
Mother: Harriet WHITE b: 1815 in England
Married: Clara Agnes MAYS b: 30 DEC 1843 in Bedford, Bedfordshire England
Married: 4 JAN 1867 in St. Paul's, Bedford, Bedfordshire, England
Children- Agnes Clara Spring b: 26 OCT 1867 in New York City, NY
John Spring b: 17 AUG 1869 in New York City, NY
Arthur Spring b: APR 1872 in New York City, NY
Herbert SPRING b: 25 SEP 1874 in Elizabeth, NJ
Edith Spring b: 23 FEB 1877 in Belvidere, Allegany Co, NY
Ethel Spring b: 23 FEB 1877 in Belvidere, NY
Reginald Spring b: 13 DEC 1878 in Belvidere, Allegany Co, NY
Harriet Alice Spring b: 9 NOV 1881 in Belvidere, Allegany Co, NY Has No Children
Basil Mays Spring b: 12 JUL 1883 in Belvidere, Allegany Co, NY
Stanley Harold Spring b: 13 JUL 1885 in Belvidere, Allegany Co, NY
Family links:
Spouse: Clara A Mays Spring (1842 - 1914)
Children: Agnes Clara Spring Saunders (1869 - 1962)*
Edith Spring (1877 - 1878)*
Reginald Spring (1878 - 1964)*
Basil Mays Spring (1883 - 1967)*
*Calculated relationship
Burial: Forest Hills Cemetery
Belmont, Allegany County, New York, USA
Created by: Twist
Record added: Nov 20, 2010
Find A Grave Memorial# 61935320
- [S109] Carol Garden, e-mail: Carol Garden, From: carol.garden@att.net [mailto:carol.garden@att.net] Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 5:47 PM To: billshats1@msn.com; wetzupdoc@adelphia.net Subject:.
MAYES SPRING, Clara Agnes & John marriage (2) facts
20201206HAv- edited
From: carol.garden@att.net [mailto:carol.garden@att.net]
Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 5:47 PM
To: billshats1@msn.com; wetzupdoc@adelphia.net
Subject:
John and Bobby -
I want to send this information while it's fresh on my mind.
Yesterday I was at the Family History Library in Salt Lake City again. A friend likes to go once a week, so I guess we're back 'in the groove', though I'm never sure where I'll fit that into my life.
I tried to find the birth record for Clara Agnes Mays to figure out whether she was born 30 Dec 1842 or 1843. I didn't find it, but I'm getting closer. I did find a record of her marriage to John Spring on 4 Jan 1867. We already had the information, but it's fun to have a copy of the original. (Someday I'll get one to you.) Eliza Ann Mays (a sister) and William Henry Mays (a brother) were witnesses.
I also found the marriage of Clara Agnes' older sister, Rebekah, to George Brown on 11 July 1859; he was a shoemaker. Eliza Ann Mays was a witness at her marriage too. All this was in: Marriages at St. Paul's, Bedford, Bedfordshire 1813 - 1867. Film #0952398.
Today I received a wonderful letter from Bob Spring in Tacoma. He said that years ago Harriet Salmen visited relatives in Bedford, England and later gave him interesting accounts on the 8 surviving children of James Mays and Anne Wildman. I must send a copy of that. He said to look on the internet for Dr. William Henry Mays, who became a prominent San Francisco surgeon. Incidentally, I was certain she had told me that too, but I haven't been able to find anything when I've looked; I must try again. (In Bob's letter, he says that Aunt Harriet told him William Mays graduated from U.C. in 1877; also, he lived in Sausalito . . perhaps that and other information he gave me will help)
More later. . . Carol
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