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- [S109] Carol Garden, e-mail: Carol Garden.
James Mayes & Anne Wildman (13) facts
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Sources:
1) Marriage date of James Mays and Ann Wildman: Bedford Marriage Records from 1540 - 1837 (Beds B1).
2) Parent names for James Mays and Anne Wildman: genRep jcw 10 gen.rtf, A Genealogy of John C. Wetzel.
3) Children names and birth dates from family record (on a piece of paper) found in metal box belonging to John Spring (husband of Clara Agnes Mays).
4) Married names and miscellaneous information from Harriet Spring Salmen.
Notes: The possible discrepancies are marked in green.
a) John, I notice that you have 1843 listed as the birth year for Clara Agnes Mays. If I am understanding your history: genRep jcw 10 gen.rtf, you got your information from www.familysearch.com (endnote #306). I have 2 birth records for her. One was copied in 1866 and the other I sent for in 1963. They are both from the same 1843 registry, entry number 451, and the entries were made on February the eighth, 1843. On the earlier one, was written December the thirtieth 1843 and on the later one December the thirtieth 1842. I had decided years ago that the 1842 was correct, because there is a tendency to write the previous year at the beginning of a new year and because of the entry date; perhaps the person copying the original record for me in 1963 realized the error by looking at the other entries and by the original entry date.
b) The day of death for Clara Agnes Mays. Could she have died on the 13th of May and been buried on the 15th? That one should be easy enough to check out.
c) Ann was the spelling on the marriage record and also on both copies of birth records for Clara Agnes Mays (copied in 1866 and in 1963). However on the 1866 birth record someone had added an e on Ann and also written Alice above Ann Mayes.
- [S109] Carol Garden, e-mail: Carol Garden, From: carol.garden@att.net [mailto:carol.garden@att.net] Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 7:24 PM To: John Wetzel; Robert Spring Subject: Computer probs. Hope this works.
SPRING MAYES WILDMAN (21) facts
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I went to the Family History Library in Salt Lake City yesterday, and here is my report:
There was a John Spring (son of 'John and Harriet Spring') who was christened in Cardington, Bedfordshire, England on 10 Sept 1843. That would be John Spring (#24) who married Clara Agnes Mays (#25). I have down that he was born 12 Aug 1843 in Bedford, Bedfordshire. Since the parents are the same and location close to where he was born, it all fits.
Note: Bedford, Cardington and Goldington were all located in a triangle (in the county of Bedfordshire), and each was just a few miles apart. Many of our Spring ancestors seemed to be from one of these places, with marriages performed in Bedford and records kept there too. Is that how you see it, as well?
Stanley Harold Spring (youngest child of John #24 and Clara Agnes #25), who died 5 Feb 1953 in Tacoma, WA, was married to Edith Sommer and they had 2 children:
*1) Robert John Spring born 25 June 1918 in Tacoma.
He married Margaret (Peggy) Butler on 26 Apr 1941
2) Emily Ruth Spring born 18 July 1922.
* Well, that clears up a lot of my original "Bob Spring" confusion! He is the Bob Spring I visited in Tacoma so many years ago. He would be 87 today. According to www.whitepages.com, his address is: 2716 North Winnifred Street, Tacoma WA 98407-2405 and the phone number is (253) 759-1577.
A lot of the other information I think I found in www.onegreatfamily.com, which is a site the library subscribes to. I was also looking in www.familysearch.org.
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From: carol.garden@att.net [mailto:carol.garden@att.net]
Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 7:24 PM
To: John Wetzel; Robert Spring
Subject: Computer probs. Hope this works
Dear Bob and John,
There's more! I decided to call Robert Spring in Tacoma, and he is, indeed, the Bob Spring who I visited with my family many years ago. . . I think that it was in 1968. He was out in his garden when I called. He gave me his son's e-mail address, because he doesn't receive emails himself. (His son, Tom, said that his father doesn't have Word.) He is an avid genealogist, and goes to a near-by Family History Center, but he said that I have a lot more information on the Spring line than he does.
His family -- daughter (who lives in Tacoma), son (who lives on Vashon Island -- off Puget Sound) and their families and also his sister (Emily) will celebrate his 87th birthday tomorrow instead of today. His wife, Peggy, died two years ago (I believe he said of cancer).
He said that his sister was a widow; she and her husband never had children. They had lived in San Diego, but she now lives near-by.
He apparently remembers a lot of stories from Tody Cleveland (daughter of Rex Spring); I think that Tody inherited her father's story-telling ability. He said Tody had told him that John Spring (born in 1810) and Harriet White had had 9 children. After her death, he married Sarah; he was 43 and the time and Sarah was 22 years old. His children by Harriet White were so angry about the marriage that most were never heard of again. He mentioned the two who went to Australia; he also thought that two of them had gone to Africa as missionaries. John and Sarah Spring also had 9 children. I had never heard about so many children, and I must ask Charlotte Harris and Tody about it.
His Uncle Herbert, he said, had a chicken farm. His recollection was that Herbert had two sons, both ministers.
Tom (the son) talked about how his grandfather (Stanley Spring) had come to the Pacific Northwest. He said that he stayed with my grandmother in Roy, Washington, which is a very small farming community. (My mother was born in Roy.) Stanley worked as an engineer for the Northern Pacific Railroad; Edith Sommers, who he married, had grown up in South Tacoma and was from a very close-knit family, so Stanley never returned to live in New York. Bob Spring was also an engineer for the railroad.
I remember my mother telling me how my grandmother (Agnes) took the children and went to Washington state. I don't remember whether my grandfather went too. She was a very determined woman. That's another story Tody probably knows about, or perhaps I have it written down somewhere.
John, I sent your family history attachment to Tom to give to his father, and I wanted to forward the pictures too, especially since Tody had enjoyed them so much, but that didn't work out.
Bob, good to hear from you and about your lap top. Have a good trip home!
Carol
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1848 - 1919 (71 years)
