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- [S109] Carol Garden, e-mail: Carol Garden, John SPRING.
John SPRING (2) facts
I forwarded your genealogy to his son (Tom), who took it to him for his birthday celebration on June 26th. His son told me he would quickly digest everything he received. And sure enough, on the 28th, Bob sent a letter to me, and had noticed that the father of John Spring (born in 1810) was listed as another John Spring (#96). Bob said that he has a "copy of a Certificate of Death Record by the state of New York, which states that John Spring of Jamestown, NY, died November 20, 1901 and his father's name was 'James' and his mother's name was Lovey Cherry." You're right, it could be one of Thomas Spring and Sarah Bird's sons. I think you are in the right family, and I'm hoping it won't be too difficult to connect those dots, and that our ancestor will be James Spring, who was baptized 7 Mar 1784. That would have made James about 26 years old when his son, John (of Jamestown, NY) was born, wouldn't it? Of course, it's possible that Bob Spring (Tacoma) is already ahead of us; it takes some time to get information back and forth to him, since he doesn't use email. I really don't think he has gone quite that far back though.
I forwarded your genealogy to his son (Tom), who took it to him for his birthday celebration on June 26th. His son told me he would quickly digest everything he received. And sure enough, on the 28th, Bob sent a letter to me, and had noticed that the father of John Spring (born in 1810) was listed as another John Spring (#96). Bob said that he has a "copy of a Certificate of Death Record by the state of New York, which states that John Spring of Jamestown, NY, died November 20, 1901 and his father's name was 'James' and his mother's name was Lovey Cherry."
You're right, it could be one of Thomas Spring and Sarah Bird's sons. I think you are in the right family, and I'm hoping it won't be too difficult to connect those dots, and that our ancestor will be James Spring, who was baptized 7 Mar 1784. That would have made James about 26 years old when his son, John (of Jamestown, NY) was born, wouldn't it? Of course, it's possible that Bob Spring (Tacoma) is already ahead of us; it takes some time to get information back and forth to him, since he doesn't use email. I really don't think he has gone quite that far back though.
- [S109] Carol Garden, e-mail: Carol Garden.
His family -- daughter (who lives in Tacoma), son (who lives on Vashon Island -- off Puget Sound) and their families and also his sister (Emily) will celebrate his 87th birthday tomorrow instead of today. His wife, Peggy, died two years ago (I believe he said of cancer).
His family -- daughter (who lives in Tacoma), son (who lives on Vashon Island -- off Puget Sound) and their families and also his sister (Emily) will celebrate his 87th birthday tomorrow instead of today. His wife, Peggy, died two years ago (I believe he said of cancer).
- [S109] Carol Garden, e-mail: Carol Garden, Bob Spring's notes to his son Tom.
Bob Spring, notes to son Tom (2) facts
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Bob Spring, notes to son Tom (2) facts
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I located the Bob Spring from my past when I was at the Salt Lake City Family History Library on June 24th. Since I suspected he might be a son of Stanley Spring (Herbert Spring's youngest sibling), I checked that out, and sure enough he was. The next day I called to wish Bob a Happy Birthday. . . he is 87.
I forwarded your genealogy to his son (Tom), who took it to him for his birthday celebration on June 26th. His son told me he would quickly digest everything he received. And sure enough, on the 28th, Bob sent a letter to me, and had noticed that the father of John Spring (born in 1810) was listed as another John Spring (#96). Bob said that he has a "copy of a Certificate of Death Record by the state of New York, which states that John Spring of Jamestown, NY, died November 20, 1901 and his father's name was 'James' and his mother's name was Lovey Cherry."
You're right, it could be one of Thomas Spring and Sarah Bird's sons. I think you are in the right family, and I'm hoping it won't be too difficult to connect those dots, and that our ancestor will be James Spring, who was baptized 7 Mar 1784. That would have made James about 26 years old when his son, John (of Jamestown, NY) was born, wouldn't it? Of course, it's possible that Bob Spring (Tacoma) is already ahead of us; it takes some time to get information back and forth to him, since he doesn't use email. I really don't think he has gone quite that far back though.
- [S109] Carol Garden, e-mail: Carol Garden, From: carol.garden@att.net [mailto:carol.garden@att.net] Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 7:24 PM To: John Wetzel; Robert Spring Subject: Computer probs. Hope this works.
SPRING MAYES WILDMAN (21) facts
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I went to the Family History Library in Salt Lake City yesterday, and here is my report:
There was a John Spring (son of 'John and Harriet Spring') who was christened in Cardington, Bedfordshire, England on 10 Sept 1843. That would be John Spring (#24) who married Clara Agnes Mays (#25). I have down that he was born 12 Aug 1843 in Bedford, Bedfordshire. Since the parents are the same and location close to where he was born, it all fits.
Note: Bedford, Cardington and Goldington were all located in a triangle (in the county of Bedfordshire), and each was just a few miles apart. Many of our Spring ancestors seemed to be from one of these places, with marriages performed in Bedford and records kept there too. Is that how you see it, as well?
Stanley Harold Spring (youngest child of John #24 and Clara Agnes #25), who died 5 Feb 1953 in Tacoma, WA, was married to Edith Sommer and they had 2 children:
*1) Robert John Spring born 25 June 1918 in Tacoma.
He married Margaret (Peggy) Butler on 26 Apr 1941
2) Emily Ruth Spring born 18 July 1922.
* Well, that clears up a lot of my original "Bob Spring" confusion! He is the Bob Spring I visited in Tacoma so many years ago. He would be 87 today. According to www.whitepages.com, his address is: 2716 North Winnifred Street, Tacoma WA 98407-2405 and the phone number is (253) 759-1577.
A lot of the other information I think I found in www.onegreatfamily.com, which is a site the library subscribes to. I was also looking in www.familysearch.org.
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From: carol.garden@att.net [mailto:carol.garden@att.net]
Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 7:24 PM
To: John Wetzel; Robert Spring
Subject: Computer probs. Hope this works
Dear Bob and John,
There's more! I decided to call Robert Spring in Tacoma, and he is, indeed, the Bob Spring who I visited with my family many years ago. . . I think that it was in 1968. He was out in his garden when I called. He gave me his son's e-mail address, because he doesn't receive emails himself. (His son, Tom, said that his father doesn't have Word.) He is an avid genealogist, and goes to a near-by Family History Center, but he said that I have a lot more information on the Spring line than he does.
His family -- daughter (who lives in Tacoma), son (who lives on Vashon Island -- off Puget Sound) and their families and also his sister (Emily) will celebrate his 87th birthday tomorrow instead of today. His wife, Peggy, died two years ago (I believe he said of cancer).
He said that his sister was a widow; she and her husband never had children. They had lived in San Diego, but she now lives near-by.
He apparently remembers a lot of stories from Tody Cleveland (daughter of Rex Spring); I think that Tody inherited her father's story-telling ability. He said Tody had told him that John Spring (born in 1810) and Harriet White had had 9 children. After her death, he married Sarah; he was 43 and the time and Sarah was 22 years old. His children by Harriet White were so angry about the marriage that most were never heard of again. He mentioned the two who went to Australia; he also thought that two of them had gone to Africa as missionaries. John and Sarah Spring also had 9 children. I had never heard about so many children, and I must ask Charlotte Harris and Tody about it.
His Uncle Herbert, he said, had a chicken farm. His recollection was that Herbert had two sons, both ministers.
Tom (the son) talked about how his grandfather (Stanley Spring) had come to the Pacific Northwest. He said that he stayed with my grandmother in Roy, Washington, which is a very small farming community. (My mother was born in Roy.) Stanley worked as an engineer for the Northern Pacific Railroad; Edith Sommers, who he married, had grown up in South Tacoma and was from a very close-knit family, so Stanley never returned to live in New York. Bob Spring was also an engineer for the railroad.
I remember my mother telling me how my grandmother (Agnes) took the children and went to Washington state. I don't remember whether my grandfather went too. She was a very determined woman. That's another story Tody probably knows about, or perhaps I have it written down somewhere.
John, I sent your family history attachment to Tom to give to his father, and I wanted to forward the pictures too, especially since Tody had enjoyed them so much, but that didn't work out.
Bob, good to hear from you and about your lap top. Have a good trip home!
Carol
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d. 2 Feb 2013, Tacoma, Pierce, Washington, USA 
